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Immersiveunreality on 14 July 2019
sundin13 said:
jason1637 said:

He could definitely do a better job but he has taken steps to try to amend the issues. The stay in mexico policy prevents even more overcrowding in detention centers. Also after the tariff threat Mexico has increased their border security in their southern and northern border and border crossings have decreased. Also there's the $4.6 billion aid bill which should give more resources to detention centers. A lot more than be done but saying nothing has been done is just wrong.

The Stay in Mexico policy simply kicks the can to someone else who is also woefully unprepared to handle the situation. It doesn't really help so much as shift some of the blame to someone else. No one is really better off but at least Trump can kind of say "Look, its not totally my fault!" even though the Stay in Mexico policy is in itself his fault so that's a bit of a strange defense on that one...

Like there is a reason why the United States doesn't consider Mexico a Safe Third Country (despite Trump's willingness to change this). The Stay in Mexico policy is just a half assed version of something pretty much every advocate for immigrants say is not a good thing.

I wonder what Mexico itself is doing to want people to not immigrate to the US like are they actively busy with bettering life conditions for the people or is the problem being ignored or too difficult to be handled short/semi short term?



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jason1637 on 14 July 2019
TallSilhouette said:
Foolish AOC, saving New York billions in corporate welfare.

It still stings that Amazon didn't come to NY because the minority of people didn't want them.



Machiavellian on 14 July 2019
the-pi-guy said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-aoc-ilhan-omar-nancy-pelosi-press-conference-today-ocasio-cortez-a9002541.html



So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

Finally he shows his colors.  Anyway I am sure his base thinks the same way even though I believe only one of those Progressive Democratic Congresswomen wasn't born in the US.



jason1637 on 14 July 2019

That's a dumb way to criticize people. They were elected to congress to fix the problems in the US. Yeah it's a great country but there are still a lot of issues and telling them to go back to their country makes no sense because that won't fix anything and 3/4 of the people he was referring to were born in the United States.

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Mbolibombo on 14 July 2019

He went full racist in those series of tweets.

We all know he's racist but he's not even trying to hide it there.



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KLAMarine on 14 July 2019
Mbolibombo said:
He went full racist in those series of tweets.

We all know he's racist but he's not even trying to hide it there.

Racist how?



Immersiveunreality on 14 July 2019
the-pi-guy said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-aoc-ilhan-omar-nancy-pelosi-press-conference-today-ocasio-cortez-a9002541.html



So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

This irritates me to no end,please god let him stop tweeting.

Bolded: Those words put people against eachother,not what America needs right now.



Torillian on 14 July 2019
KLAMarine said:
Mbolibombo said:
He went full racist in those series of tweets.

We all know he's racist but he's not even trying to hide it there.

Racist how?

What do you call telling a bunch of American citizens (all of which happen to be brown) to go back and fix the countries they're from even though most of them were born here? I guess it could technically be bigoted generally and not specifically racist or perhaps more accurately called xenophobic. 



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KLAMarine on 14 July 2019
Torillian said:
KLAMarine said:

Racist how?

What do you call telling a bunch of American citizens (all of which happen to be brown) to go back and fix the countries they're from even though most of them were born here? I guess it could technically be bigoted generally and not specifically racist or perhaps more accurately called xenophobic. 

Who are we talking about here?



Torillian on 14 July 2019
KLAMarine said:
Torillian said:

What do you call telling a bunch of American citizens (all of which happen to be brown) to go back and fix the countries they're from even though most of them were born here? I guess it could technically be bigoted generally and not specifically racist or perhaps more accurately called xenophobic. 

Who are we talking about here?

Trump:

"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!"



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