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the-pi-guy said:
Immersiveunreality said:

But the term "Believe women" is an extreme on itself that only focusses on one part of the problem as it only envelops one gender.

And if a term focusses on a problem that is common for both genders but chooses to only focus on one side of it then it can even be considered sexist,and to make the point you suggest women do not have to be singled out for it.

Some people think that those types of movements should be driven for the people that need them most.  (I don't agree with that though.)
They're not saying that men don't also have those issues, but that women tend to struggle with those kinds of things a bit more.  

The only reason I would consider a movement sexist for only focussing on one side, is if people on a side tend to diminish the bigger part of the issue.  

If people from a movement dedicated to men being open about being raped, started attacking women who got raped, then I'd at least start to question their intentions, I could see that movement being considered sexist.  

Bolded: Nothing scientific to ever prove that claim,only emotions and even that thought can be considered sexist.If i tell you men tend to struggle more with those kind of things and maybe make a group of people to follow me would that be enough incentive for you to believe it?

Believe women is a slogan and not a movement,it is used by the overused "me too" movement but that does not make that slogan a movement.



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Immersiveunreality said:

Bolded: Nothing scientific to ever prove that claim,only emotions and even that thought can be considered sexist.

Women are probably believed more on average, but they're definitely much more likely to be raped.  

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/sexual-assault-victims/

Immersiveunreality said:

If i tell you men tend to struggle more with those kind of things and maybe make a group of people to follow me would that be enough incentive for you to believe it?

Depends on how you framed it.  

I'd believe that the average woman has a harder time than the average man.  But the average male rape victim could have a harder time than the average female rape victim.  (Would be kind of terrible to try to quantify "harder time", but I digress...)

If you had something stronger than that, I'd need some proof.

Immersiveunreality said:

Believe women is a slogan and not a movement,it is used by the overused "me too" movement but that does not make that slogan a movement.

Right



This week in US politics.

US Department of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is cutting her departments annual grant of $15-18 million to the Special Olympics all while pushing for a $60 million increase in private charter school funding.

Pennsylvania state Representative Stephanie Borowicz gave a "God forgive us prayer" on the House floor prior to the swearing in of Movita Johnson-Harrell, the first Muslim women to join the state House.

Alabama Congressman Mo Brooks reads from Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' on the House floor in an attempt to denigrate Democrats and their democratic socialist polices.

The NRA was caught on camera by an undercover fake gun rights group attempting to donate $10-20 million to a real anti-Muslim Australian political party to buy 8 political seats in the Australian government.  Only relevant because the NRA is a US group.

Senator Mike Lee from Utah tried to downplay the democrat's Green New Deal by using pictures of a tauntaun from Star Wars, AquaMan, babies and even former president Ronald Reagan with a rocket launcher strapped to his back, shooting an Uzi while riding a velociraptor who is carrying a war torn US flag.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

SpokenTruth said:

This week in US politics.

US Department of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is cutting her departments annual grant of $15-18 million to the Special Olympics all while pushing for a $60 million increase in private charter school funding.

Pennsylvania state Representative Stephanie Borowicz gave a "God forgive us prayer" on the House floor prior to the swearing in of Movita Johnson-Harrell, the first Muslim women to join the state House.

Alabama Congressman Mo Brooks reads from Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' on the House floor in an attempt to denigrate Democrats and their democratic socialist polices.

The NRA was caught on camera by an undercover fake gun rights group attempting to donate $10-20 million to a real anti-Muslim Australian political party to buy 8 political seats in the Australian government.  Only relevant because the NRA is a US group.

Senator Mike Lee from Utah tried to downplay the democrat's Green New Deal by using pictures of a tauntaun from Star Wars, AquaMan, babies and even former president Ronald Reagan with a rocket launcher strapped to his back, shooting an Uzi while riding a velociraptor who is carrying a war torn US flag.

"US Department of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is cutting her departments annual grant of $15-18 million to the Special Olympics"

she's probably just trying to suppress the creation of unnatural hierarchies where there are a few winners and many many losers, so you should be in support of this

"Alabama Congressman Mo Brooks reads from Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' on the House floor in an attempt to denigrate Democrats and their democratic socialist polices."

how could he do that? this makes it sound like some of the policies of the democrats are similar to those of hitler

"Pennsylvania state Representative Stephanie Borowicz gave a "God forgive us prayer" on the House floor prior to the swearing in of Movita Johnson-Harrell, the first Muslim women to join the state House."

and i suppose the muslim lady is just naturally more tolerant of christians because we all know how much more tolerant islam is in general

"Senator Mike Lee from Utah tried to downplay the democrat's Green New Deal by using pictures of a tauntaun from Star Wars, AquaMan, babies and even former president Ronald Reagan with a rocket launcher strapped to his back, shooting an Uzi while riding a velociraptor who is carrying a war torn US flag."

...its what you call a joke



the-pi-guy said:

Immersiveunreality said:

Bolded: Nothing scientific to ever prove that claim,only emotions and even that thought can be considered sexist.

Women are probably believed more on average, but they're definitely much more likely to be raped.  

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/sexual-assault-victims/

Immersiveunreality said:

If i tell you men tend to struggle more with those kind of things and maybe make a group of people to follow me would that be enough incentive for you to believe it?

Depends on how you framed it.  

I'd believe that the average woman has a harder time than the average man.  But the average male rape victim could have a harder time than the average female rape victim.  (Would be kind of terrible to try to quantify "harder time", but I digress...)

If you had something stronger than that, I'd need some proof.

Immersiveunreality said:

Believe women is a slogan and not a movement,it is used by the overused "me too" movement but that does not make that slogan a movement.

Right

First bolded: My heart goes out for all of the victims and i would say that women have the "weaker" Physical build of the 2 genders and that could translate in more victims but women also tend to report alot more while men on the otherhand tend to keep quiet about it,so yeah i partly agree with that but not with the source you have your info from because it is not a source but a translation from mostly only female writers and first thing i noticed was that Trump reference ?

On the other hand ,even when women have a weaker physical build it says nothing about abusement in a relationship itself and abusive women tend to mentally abuse their men and break them to the point they  can not defend themselves physically when receiving physical abuse and it is not baked into our culture for men to report that so i still think"believe women" is unneeded division of genders for this topic.

Second bolded:I can just ask the same of you,"i need some proof" and till now there is nothing concrete yet just "believe" like you said.



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Trump was at his Trumpiest at a campaign rally (yes, a 2020 presidential campaign rally already) in Michigan yesterday.

If Hillary got in... you'd be doing wind. Windmills. Weeeee.

And if it doesn't blow, you can forget about television for that night.

'Darling, I want to watch television.' 'I'm sorry! The wind isn't blowing.'

I know a lot about wind.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

SpokenTruth said:

Trump was at his Trumpiest at a campaign rally (yes, a 2020 presidential campaign rally already) in Michigan yesterday.

If Hillary got in... you'd be doing wind. Windmills. Weeeee.

And if it doesn't blow, you can forget about television for that night.

'Darling, I want to watch television.' 'I'm sorry! The wind isn't blowing.'

I know a lot about wind.

I had to read that a couple of times before I understood the general sentiment he was going for. This is borderline incoherent. It's rants like these that make me question if he might not maybe have dementia.



HylianSwordsman said:
SpokenTruth said:

Trump was at his Trumpiest at a campaign rally (yes, a 2020 presidential campaign rally already) in Michigan yesterday.

If Hillary got in... you'd be doing wind. Windmills. Weeeee.

And if it doesn't blow, you can forget about television for that night.

'Darling, I want to watch television.' 'I'm sorry! The wind isn't blowing.'

I know a lot about wind.

I had to read that a couple of times before I understood the general sentiment he was going for. This is borderline incoherent. It's rants like these that make me question if he might not maybe have dementia.

I've been wondering that for years.  Every time I hear him talk or read some of his quotes, the grammar, syntax and general flow of thought makes me question his cognitive capacity.

Consider this word salad from July, 2018.

“I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No, we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really, we do it without, like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical – the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain. More important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more important.”



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/us/politics/beto-rally.html
Beto will official kick off his campaign today in El Paso, Texas. It's by a part of the border that Trump said he will shut down.



SpokenTruth said:

Trump was at his Trumpiest at a campaign rally (yes, a 2020 presidential campaign rally already) in Michigan yesterday.

If Hillary got in... you'd be doing wind. Windmills. Weeeee.

And if it doesn't blow, you can forget about television for that night.

'Darling, I want to watch television.' 'I'm sorry! The wind isn't blowing.'

I know a lot about wind.

Trump did type that down?