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the-pi-guy said:
jason1637 said:

But that's liek comparing apples to oranges. Like a pastor making a church better does have an affect on the church goers but not to the magnitude that a good economy will. Some soldiers find it hard to find jobs after they have served so a good economy and low unemployment benefits them a lot.

How about this:

Imagine your dad was a police officer who died protecting the church.  

Imagine during the eulogy, the pastor briefly mentioned your dad, then spent most of his time talking about how well the church was doing, how the church staff was making more money than they ever had. 

I get how people can view that was inappropriate but I dont see why. If the police officer died to protect the church that he cares about the person givign the eulogy can talk about what he protected and the strides that the church is making.I have some relatives and friends who are part of the military and they like it when Obama and now Trump talked about how well the country is doing because that's what their fighting to protect.



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jason1637 said:
the-pi-guy said:

How about this:

Imagine your dad was a police officer who died protecting the church.  

Imagine during the eulogy, the pastor briefly mentioned your dad, then spent most of his time talking about how well the church was doing, how the church staff was making more money than they ever had. 

I get how people can view that was inappropriate but I dont see why. If the police officer died to protect the church that he cares about the person givign the eulogy can talk about what he protected and the strides that the church is making.I have some relatives and friends who are part of the military and they like it when Obama and now Trump talked about how well the country is doing because that's what their fighting to protect.

Yes, when appropriate.  But not only was that not the appropriate time, he managed to make all about his fragile ego.



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jason1637 said:
the-pi-guy said:

How about this:

Imagine your dad was a police officer who died protecting the church.  

Imagine during the eulogy, the pastor briefly mentioned your dad, then spent most of his time talking about how well the church was doing, how the church staff was making more money than they ever had. 

I get how people can view that was inappropriate but I dont see why. If the police officer died to protect the church that he cares about the person givign the eulogy can talk about what he protected and the strides that the church is making.I have some relatives and friends who are part of the military and they like it when Obama and now Trump talked about how well the country is doing because that's what their fighting to protect.

He was using memorial day to brag about his own questionable accomplishments. Jesus Christ you're twisting yourself in knots to justify his tweet 



collint0101 said:
jason1637 said:

I get how people can view that was inappropriate but I dont see why. If the police officer died to protect the church that he cares about the person givign the eulogy can talk about what he protected and the strides that the church is making.I have some relatives and friends who are part of the military and they like it when Obama and now Trump talked about how well the country is doing because that's what their fighting to protect.

He was using memorial day to brag about his own questionable accomplishments. Jesus Christ you're twisting yourself in knots to justify his tweet 

I don't twist knots. I just took the tweet for what it was. The first half was showing gratitude to veterans and the second hand was talking about positive things that help veterans like a good economy and a strong military.



jason1637 said:
collint0101 said:

He was using memorial day to brag about his own questionable accomplishments. Jesus Christ you're twisting yourself in knots to justify his tweet 

I don't twist knots. I just took the tweet for what it was. The first half was showing gratitude to veterans and the second hand was talking about positive things that help veterans like a good economy and a strong military.

That's the problem. We're talking about a memorial day tweet here and he couldn't even do that without trying to stroke off his ego or rally up his base. Even if he unarguably had an amazing economic track record right then was simply not the time to brag about it. 



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My only issue with that tweet is that Trump is putting words into the mouths of the dead and basically saying that all of the men and women who died serving our country would support Trump.

Lets be honest, if the dead really supported Trump, why did millions of them vote for Clinton in 2016?

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the-pi-guy said:
jason1637 said:

But that's liek comparing apples to oranges. Like a pastor making a church better does have an affect on the church goers but not to the magnitude that a good economy will. Some soldiers find it hard to find jobs after they have served so a good economy and low unemployment benefits them a lot.

How about this:

Imagine your dad was a police officer who died protecting the church.  

Imagine during the eulogy, the pastor briefly mentioned your dad, then spent most of his time talking about how well the church was doing, how the church staff was making more money than they ever had. 

Don't forget: The pastor is doing this for the purpose self aggrandizement because he's a narcissistic sociopath, and a dumb, dumb, DUMB, shit-for-brains moron. The fact that the church has been prosperous recently is incidental, and actually has nothing to do with him. He always takes undue credit though. His job necessitates public speaking, but he is a poor orator, with a command of the English language that could be equated to that of a middle-schooler who takes the "special" classes. Also a liar. And hypocrite. And conman. Who cheats on his wife. His THIRD wife. Right after she gave birth. Often talks about how hot his daughter is. He would like to date her. If only she wasn't his daughter. There's a novella worth of character traits I could apply to this hypothetical pastor. I don't even think he believes in Jesus.

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If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.



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EricHiggin said:

If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.

There's a difference between bragging and attempting to prevent other tragedies. It would be like if we did actually pass comprehensive gun control reform then every year democrats went on Twitter to brag about how successful it was on the anniversary of Sandy Hook 



Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:

Crowder is a safe space? When someone mostly agree's with you, there's zero possibility it's because their logic tells them you were mostly justified?

So Ben was asked to do an interview on his book, and when the time came they didn't interview him about his book, but they did pose questions to Ben about things he's done or said in general, and because he wasn't prepared to combat that in a worthy manner since he wasn't anticipating the ambush, it's entirely Bens fault and he just needs to deal with it?

So say there's someone who knows a famous guy who is publicly vocal about upholding the second amendment, who loves guns, uses them all the time, has fast reaction times and is deadly accurate, and is always conceal carrying in public. This is something quite well known about this famous guy by many. This someone hosts a speaking event and invites the famous guy to be the main speaker. After finishing their famous guy welcoming speech, instead of this someone presenting their hand in good faith while exiting the stage, they pull a gun and put an entire clip into the famous guy, killing him before he can react. The famous guy, as always, was conceal carrying at the time.

In court, this someone explains to the judge it's not their fault that the famous guy was tricked into thinking he was simply going to be giving a speech at a friendly event, and that the famous guy should have been quite capable of backing up his claims mentally and physically, yet he could not when put to the test. The judge, who is you by chance, agree's with this someone and acquits them of all charges.

Umm, ok?

During the interview the interviewer made several references to Ben book and then challenge Ben on exactly that and Ben got angry.  You forget that once Ben got angry and basically quite the interview there wasn't a chance to go any further.  From what I take is that everyone must treat Ben with kid gloves but never challenge his position like he does all the time.

You seem to love your analogies but in the end all I see is excuses.  None of your analogies plays out to what happen but is just you looking for a way to excuse Ben and how he behaved.  I will give you credit though, if I ever need an excuse for anything wrong that I have done, I will definitely look you up because I am sure you will have a number of them ready.

He makes references to what Ben's said but doesn't seem to make any direct references to the book. Go further? The 'interview' was already over 15 minutes. How long does it take to get to the point? Obviously Ben has all day to sit and be whipped, because who doesn't?

Let's have a party. I'll bring the excuses and you can bring the spin and denial. Better yet, let's record it, post it online, and call it an interview...



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Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.