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EricHiggin said:

He does get a pass to a degree because of the fact you won't talk about whether or not a change in his tone or "care" in his messages will make a difference, since for the most part it likely won't. Why should Trump act the way some of his critics think he should, if those critics wouldn't change even if Trump did? There are times when the msm or his opposition start something, and lie about him, and yet some people turn a blind eye to it. I don't like it when he clearly lies, but if him telling the truth won't change the lies told about him, why should he change if his opposition won't? Putting up the white flag knowing the enemy is just going to walk up and stab you anyway would be beyond pathetic and un-American.

If you're going as far to say that Trump needs to basically become a Democrat like President in order to get his opposition to change as well, what you're asking for is to undo an election by the people, which is not how America operates, and those that can't stand to live with it, are free to try another country. Good luck to them, because they're going to need all of it.

First of all, of course it would make a difference.

Second of all, if not constantly lying through your ass is considered a quality of a "Democrat like President", I think you've got some big problems on the right...

And all this macho "he's just sticking up for himself and fighting the good fight" stuff is nonsense. Again, Trump doesn't get to play the fragile child while being incredibly incendiary. He gives up his right to play the "righteous indignation" card when he stokes shit every chance he gets and abandoned a moral platform on day zero.

These are nothing but shallow excuses and its incredibly transparent.



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https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/politics/oregon-donald-trump-campaign-election-2020/index.html
The Trump campaign are considering investing more in Oregon, Nevada, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and New Mexico. Oregnon and New Mexico would probably be a waste of resources but he has a pretty good shot at Nevada, Minnesota, and New Hampshire.

Last edited by jason1637 - on 18 June 2019

EricHiggin said:
Machiavellian said:

Who cares about the spelling mistake, I have not chastised Trump on spelling mistakes, I make them all the time.  I chastise him for being incompetent idiot and it didn't start during his Presidency.  We can bring up hundreds of tweets that shows that he has no clue what he is doing.  No hidden meaning just dumb stupid ramblings.  We can show multiple speaking moments of him making very dumb ramblings and stupid insights into his mind. 

Naw, it really isn't important to know what hidden meaning he is trying to put into tweets.  Trying to run the country using tweets, using tweets for diplomatic relations is also stupid and dumb.  Its why his administration is in shambles and everyone is leaving.  You can continue to try to make idiotic things he does as somehow above the wisdom of everyone else but it will always just be you trying to find the silver lining in the idiotic.  If you believe people can find the intelligent out of the stupid, I am more than happy to listen to you try to make most of the dribble coming from Trump mouth into something intelligent. 

That's where this all started, with the misspelled tweet, so if you don't care about the tweet and story that goes with it, why bother arguing about it to then ask why anyone cares about it?

I kind of assumed when you pointed out it could be that it's simply a spelling mistake, and I should believe he simply made a spelling mistake, which shows me who he is, which would be an idiot, that was the point. Sorry for getting that all mixed up. I was a little dehydrated and I chose the red juice over the blue kool aid that time. Bad decision on my part..

I never said Trump is perfect, and just like you and I, everyone makes mistakes and thinks and says dumb things at least every so often. Thank goodness the language listening and penalty devices haven't been installed everywhere quite yet. Demolition man needs to remain a movie and not become prophecy.

Instant communication to everyone in the country and potentially the world is dumb? You would rather have the msm try and get you the facts, so you can figure out who's facts are correct or more worthy and who's are not? Were prior Presidential radio or TV announcements dumb? Would they have become dumb if they were held more often? If they said dumb things would it be ok since they were live?

I would guess why people have a hard time staying around him has to do with the headaches from the outside. It's why after I left home I rarely see my mother anymore because she's the type of person to go after you consistently and put you down or flat out destroy you (if she really doesn't like you), just because she isn't getting her way, no matter how minuscule or nonsensical her idea or reason may be. Not a surprise though since we rarely ever saw grandma because she was the exact same way, and treated my mother just as bad, even right in front of us. Dad doesn't like to spend much time around me either simply because if mom finds out she'll make his life hell for an extended period of time. Same old, same old lefty tactics. Mom mostly dislikes Trump and is always watching the msm btw. Could you have guessed?

Thanks for the compliment.

Instant communication to the public and the world is great but when has the president ever had a problem doing that.  Instant communication to the world when you do not take the time to correct simple spelling and grammar mistakes is stupid.  This is what makes Trump stupid and disrespect the office that he is in.  He tweets like he is your average Joe but he is not, he is President of the United States.  Nothing he says in public is unofficial.  Him tweeting anything that comes to his mind without properly vetting it is stupid.  What Trump says has direct effect because he is President.  Even you should realize this very simple concept.  Policy through Twitter is stupid if not vetted correctly.  This is why a lot of what he has tweeted people scramble to try to implement and then it goes nowhere because most times he is too stupid to even know how his office works, what can be accomplish and what steps it takes to get it done.  This has been recorded countless times in Trump administration and is why it's mostly dysfunctional.

People have a hard time staying around Trump administration not because of the headaches outside but instead of the current management.  When people believe in the upper management they are more than willing to work in a stressful environment to accomplish goals they believe in but when people do not believe in the current leadership, they are quick to get the hell out.  You would like to make it all about everyone else besides Trump  but there is really only one place to look first and that is Trump.  The current people do not have trust in him, his policy and his leadership and they probably all believe his is a complete idiot.  The people that stay are the ones who believe they can manipulate the idiot or just stay under the radar until he is gone.  Either way as time continue to go on we continue to see how much of an idiot Trump is and even you will run out of excuses before his time is up.



EricHiggin said:

He does get a pass to a degree because of the fact you won't talk about whether or not a change in his tone or "care" in his messages will make a difference, since for the most part it likely won't. Why should Trump act the way some of his critics think he should, if those critics wouldn't change even if Trump did? There are times when the msm or his opposition start something, and lie about him, and yet some people turn a blind eye to it. I don't like it when he clearly lies, but if him telling the truth won't change the lies told about him, why should he change if his opposition won't? Putting up the white flag knowing the enemy is just going to walk up and stab you anyway would be beyond pathetic and un-American.

If you're going as far to say that Trump needs to basically become a Democrat like President in order to get his opposition to change as well, what you're asking for is to undo an election by the people, which is not how America operates, and those that can't stand to live with it, are free to try another country. Good luck to them, because they're going to need all of it.

So are you saying that Trump should lie to the people because msn or someone else lies about him.  Lol, nothing puts a smile on my face when you go to such lengths to make even the dumbest thing Trump does ok.  So Trump lies because others lie about him.  So Trump steals because others steal from him.  We can just blame everything Trump does that is negative, stupid or illegal because others do it to him first.  

So Trump shouldn't correct his grammar or spelling mistakes, he should not take the time or care to check his information because people are bad to him.  It's always someone else fault instead of Trump, I mean really do you even hear yourself.



RolStoppable said:
sundin13 said:

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These are nothing but shallow excuses and its incredibly transparent.

Oh no, someone is realizing that Eric wears a T-shirt.

Machiavellian said:

(...) Either way as time continue to go on we continue to see how much of an idiot Trump is and even you will run out of excuses before his time is up.

Wrong, Eric has his T-shirt.

Lol, very True, I thought about that last statement again and I totally forgot that there will never be a time Eric runs out of excuses for anything Trump does.  I still believe he is trolling but it's fun to see another analogy or apology he thinks up.



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Wonder if the Governor will sign it.

Last edited by jason1637 - on 19 June 2019

RolStoppable said:
jason1637 said:


Wonder of the Governor will sign it.

So this means Maine could join a select few other states that don't render votes irrelevant when they were casted for a runner-up in the state?

I'm not sure if any other states have ranked choice voting. But Maine first implemented it during the 2018 midterm elections for congress and now it might be expanded to the Presidential race. So people can pick their first, second, and third choice. Hopefully this affects the primaries if it becomes law.



One of my friends sent me this and I found it pretty insightful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/c0zrj1/actual_gun_violence_numbers_with_sources/
The "gun problem" has been overblown by the media.



RolStoppable said:
jason1637 said:
One of my friends sent me this and I found it pretty insightful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/c0zrj1/actual_gun_violence_numbers_with_sources/
The "gun problem" has been overblown by the media.

I hoped to be amused and the link didn't disappoint.

"Our gun problem pales in comparison to our health care problems and fast food obsession!"

Healthcare and fast food are issues that affect tens of millions of Americans each year while actual gun violence affects less than 5 thousand people.



RolStoppable said:
jason1637 said:

Healthcare and fast food are issues that affect tens of millions of Americans each year while actual gun violence affects less than 5 thousand people.

Even your link states a number of more than 5,000 after excluding a variety of other instances that result in gun-related deaths. Worth to note is that all those numbers concern only lethal outcomes, but gun violence should of course also include non-lethal incidents.

I've looked a bit more into this topic and what's alarming is that Austria - a backwards country which ranks low among European countries with gun-related deaths affecting 0.003% of its population - is still doing comfortably better than the USA's rate of 0.009%. I've rounded up Austria's value and rounded down the USA's, by the way.

Stats show that US-Americans own roughly three times as many guns as Austrians per capita, so that could explain part of it, but then again, Germany and Iceland have the same amount of guns relative to their total population while their mortality rate isn't half of Austria's.

Japan's gun-related deaths affect only 0.00006% of its population, so the takeaway is that more waifus and less guns are better for everyone.

My bad it's 5,577 which is still way less people affected than actual problems. The reason the ratio is higher compared to Austria could be that there are bigger cities and more Urban areas in the US so with a higher density of people more people can be affected by gun violence. But still the point was to show that there is actually no gun problem compared to other major issues.

And no waifus are weird.