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Protect and serve? Bullshit.

The story I linked to above is of a Texas officer who shot and killed a pregnant black woman, and despite what he's done he's on paid leave.

Meanwhile both mother and child don't get to see the light of day.

Sure, she used his taser on him, but he's pretty much getting away with murder.

This is one of the worst incidents of both police brutality AND violence against women, and the fact that it happened in America, in 2019, makes it even worse.

Guess anyone from outside the US shouldn't visit the "land of the free and home of the brave" if they're a woman, non-white, or a child unborn or otherwise.



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NightlyPoe said:
Machiavellian said:

I just listened to this interview and no Ben did not own up to his misbehavior.  The thing is when you say and do dumb crap in the past, you have to be ready to admit it and move on.  Instead every response was this arrogant "Even when I say dumb stuff I am still right" kind of mentality.  He didn't want to answer the question and instead just became argumentative. 

So Ben wrote a book about a problem he himself championed during the years and he couldn't be even a bit humble enough to suggest that maybe how he went about such things was wrong and he has moved on.  If anything by watching how he handled himself during the interview, I would say nothing has changed with Ben as he continued to try to defend some of those old quotes even when he knew they were bad.

Not all of them were bad.  A lot legit have explanations.  That also has to be understood.  Sometimes an outrage isn't really an outrage.  We are living in a time of internet outrage over half-quotes and it really should be okay to push back against those cases.  However, he has owned up to several quotes that he considers wrong and said as much in this interview.

I suspect Shaprio wishes he had this one back, but that doesn't mean that the interview was conducted professionally.

When you are interviewed, its never good to be argumentative.  The reason why is that you never get your point across and you look petty.  Lets take the first question that triggered Ben which was the Georgia Ban on abortion.  So the interview guy specifically stated going backwards and gave 2 examples.  This triggered Ben who had an opportunity to explain why he believed the ban was a good thing and to explain why those 2 examples were legit but instead he concentrated on the farming of the question got argumentative and end up not answering the question or giving his opinion on the issue.

He also did not own up to any of his bad quotes.  He told the interviewer to go to a website and read up on it but he had the chance in the interview to give his side.  The only people who will go to his site are the people who already follow him.  If Ben is trying to show a different side of himself he had the opportunity during the interview to do so.  You cannot sit there and preach about change then get all arrogant and defensive about previous ills in his past.  If anything I came away from that interview believing his book is only facade and the person who wrote is still the same person who made those quotes. 



CaptainExplosion said:

Protect and serve? Bullshit.

The story I linked to above is of a Texas officer who shot and killed a pregnant black woman, and despite what he's done he's on paid leave.

Meanwhile both mother and child don't get to see the light of day.

Sure, she used his taser on him, but he's pretty much getting away with murder.

This is one of the worst incidents of both police brutality AND violence against women, and the fact that it happened in America, in 2019, makes it even worse.

Guess anyone from outside the US shouldn't visit the "land of the free and home of the brave" if they're a woman, non-white, or a child unborn or otherwise.

Actually when you watch the video, the officer used the taser on her, then he dropped it.  You can clearly see him shoot her with the taser and hear the sound.  So after shooting her with the taser, dropping it next to her then while standing over her he shoots her 5 times and his statement is that she took his taser from him and attempted to shoot him.  At the end of the day, in the US, resisting arrest no matter how minor the crime is a death sentence so he will probably get off.



Machiavellian said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Protect and serve? Bullshit.

The story I linked to above is of a Texas officer who shot and killed a pregnant black woman, and despite what he's done he's on paid leave.

Meanwhile both mother and child don't get to see the light of day.

Sure, she used his taser on him, but he's pretty much getting away with murder.

This is one of the worst incidents of both police brutality AND violence against women, and the fact that it happened in America, in 2019, makes it even worse.

Guess anyone from outside the US shouldn't visit the "land of the free and home of the brave" if they're a woman, non-white, or a child unborn or otherwise.

Actually when you watch the video, the officer used the taser on her, then he dropped it.  You can clearly see him shoot her with the taser and hear the sound.  So after shooting her with the taser, dropping it next to her then while standing over her he shoots her 5 times and his statement is that she took his taser from him and attempted to shoot him.  At the end of the day, in the US, resisting arrest no matter how minor the crime is a death sentence so he will probably get off.

America is safe for nobody, except for white males and white cops. It's like they only recruit the most racist and trigger happy pigs they can find in America.

It's like the coast guard Nazi who planned to kill Illhan Omar to support Trump.

America is basically Nazi Germany now.



Some days I just blow up.

CaptainExplosion said:
Machiavellian said:

Actually when you watch the video, the officer used the taser on her, then he dropped it.  You can clearly see him shoot her with the taser and hear the sound.  So after shooting her with the taser, dropping it next to her then while standing over her he shoots her 5 times and his statement is that she took his taser from him and attempted to shoot him.  At the end of the day, in the US, resisting arrest no matter how minor the crime is a death sentence so he will probably get off.

America is safe for nobody, except for white males and white cops. It's like they only recruit the most racist and trigger happy pigs they can find in America.

It's like the coast guard Nazi who planned to kill Illhan Omar to support Trump.

America is basically Nazi Germany now.

I'd say that the USA are still not anywhere close to the standards of Nazi Germany.



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Machiavellian said:
NightlyPoe said:

Not all of them were bad.  A lot legit have explanations.  That also has to be understood.  Sometimes an outrage isn't really an outrage.  We are living in a time of internet outrage over half-quotes and it really should be okay to push back against those cases.  However, he has owned up to several quotes that he considers wrong and said as much in this interview.

I suspect Shaprio wishes he had this one back, but that doesn't mean that the interview was conducted professionally.

When you are interviewed, its never good to be argumentative.  The reason why is that you never get your point across and you look petty.  Lets take the first question that triggered Ben which was the Georgia Ban on abortion.  So the interview guy specifically stated going backwards and gave 2 examples.  This triggered Ben who had an opportunity to explain why he believed the ban was a good thing and to explain why those 2 examples were legit but instead he concentrated on the farming of the question got argumentative and end up not answering the question or giving his opinion on the issue.

He also did not own up to any of his bad quotes.  He told the interviewer to go to a website and read up on it but he had the chance in the interview to give his side.  The only people who will go to his site are the people who already follow him.  If Ben is trying to show a different side of himself he had the opportunity during the interview to do so.  You cannot sit there and preach about change then get all arrogant and defensive about previous ills in his past.  If anything I came away from that interview believing his book is only facade and the person who wrote is still the same person who made those quotes. 

This is one of the main problems though. People like Trump and Ben put stuff out there and yet the media goes after them for those same things over and over. When you're the type of person who goes out of their way to lay things out as easily and clearly as possible in advance, and then you have opposition constantly ask you about those same things over and over, especially when it's beyond old news, it no doubt is really going to get on your nerves. The point in spending the time in advance was so you didn't have to waste time later, as well as trying to stop anyone from bringing it up later to use against you. If your audience requires your media platform to get Ben or Trumps view on things, they'll give you a shot if you're going to be legit, but if you're looking to make a fool of them, then your audience can pay money to find out more about them. As far as Ben would be concerned, it's their loss and it's mostly because of the platform, not him.

Ben put's info on his website and writes books, and then people want him to go over it all again. Now if it was legit and they just wanted to know what he meant, that's one thing, but when they are trying to make him look bad he's not going to have it. It's like Trump and his billions lost. Everyone already knows. He even laid it out on The Apprentice, that he was super deep in debt and crawled his way out. He even has a book called The Art of The Comeback. This is why they go on the offensive so quickly. They already have gone over this, and you can find out more for free in some ways, and pay in others, like for their books. Since their opposition likely wouldn't go to the trouble, or clearly hasn't, why should they go to the trouble of explaining what they already have over and over?



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Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

CaptainExplosion said:

Protect and serve? Bullshit.

The story I linked to above is of a Texas officer who shot and killed a pregnant black woman, and despite what he's done he's on paid leave.

Meanwhile both mother and child don't get to see the light of day.

Sure, she used his taser on him, but he's pretty much getting away with murder.

This is one of the worst incidents of both police brutality AND violence against women, and the fact that it happened in America, in 2019, makes it even worse.

Guess anyone from outside the US shouldn't visit the "land of the free and home of the brave" if they're a woman, non-white, or a child unborn or otherwise.

CaptainExplosion said:
Machiavellian said:

Actually when you watch the video, the officer used the taser on her, then he dropped it.  You can clearly see him shoot her with the taser and hear the sound.  So after shooting her with the taser, dropping it next to her then while standing over her he shoots her 5 times and his statement is that she took his taser from him and attempted to shoot him.  At the end of the day, in the US, resisting arrest no matter how minor the crime is a death sentence so he will probably get off.

America is safe for nobody, except for white males and white cops. It's like they only recruit the most racist and trigger happy pigs they can find in America.

It's like the coast guard Nazi who planned to kill Illhan Omar to support Trump.

America is basically Nazi Germany now.

Tough to tell if the STEM shooting agree's or disagree's with this.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/05/13/colorado-school-shooter/

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/09/students-werent-told-vigil-organized-gun-control/

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/11/colorado-shooter-dad-deported/



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

Machiavellian said:

When you are interviewed, its never good to be argumentative.  The reason why is that you never get your point across and you look petty.  Lets take the first question that triggered Ben which was the Georgia Ban on abortion.  So the interview guy specifically stated going backwards and gave 2 examples.  This triggered Ben who had an opportunity to explain why he believed the ban was a good thing and to explain why those 2 examples were legit but instead he concentrated on the farming of the question got argumentative and end up not answering the question or giving his opinion on the issue.

He also did not own up to any of his bad quotes.  He told the interviewer to go to a website and read up on it but he had the chance in the interview to give his side.  The only people who will go to his site are the people who already follow him.  If Ben is trying to show a different side of himself he had the opportunity during the interview to do so.  You cannot sit there and preach about change then get all arrogant and defensive about previous ills in his past.  If anything I came away from that interview believing his book is only facade and the person who wrote is still the same person who made those quotes. 

True.  And that's why Shaprio came off looking bad.  However, that's a fault of style, not necessarily virtue.  I could never be famous myself because I could never handle the constant scrutiny and judging of each appearance.  It must be exhausting and hardening to have to constantly have your public persona wall up at all times.

And I'm not sure how acknowledging your mistakes to something to the point of writing articles and putting it on your website isn't owning up to it.

If anything I came away from that interview believing his book is only facade and the person who wrote is still the same person who made those quotes. 

And, in the end, that was the point.  To give people an excuse to dismiss him.  That's what we constantly do, no matter how articulate the individual, we find an excuse to disqualify our enemy's message so as not to have to engage with it.



RolStoppable said:
CaptainExplosion said:

America is safe for nobody, except for white males and white cops. It's like they only recruit the most racist and trigger happy pigs they can find in America.

It's like the coast guard Nazi who planned to kill Illhan Omar to support Trump.

America is basically Nazi Germany now.

I'd say that the USA are still not anywhere close to the standards of Nazi Germany.

They're getting closer every day under Trump it feels like.



Some days I just blow up.

CaptainExplosion said:
RolStoppable said:

I'd say that the USA are still not anywhere close to the standards of Nazi Germany.

They're getting closer every day under Trump it feels like.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+Nazi+Germany+Differences