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jason1637 on 22 May 2019
SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

Dude, the post you quoted literaly says 

I said being pro life has nothing to do with race because you mentioned race in your post. The kid that was detained was not detained because of his race. You also mentioned religion in your post and i just acknowledge that sometimes religion plays a role in some people being prolife.

Did you not notice that "pro-life" was put in quotes?  It is there for a reason.  It's to delineate lip service pro-life from real pro-life.  The lack of outrage from the same people outraged by abortions stems from the child's race and heritage. They care more for a US blastocyst than a living, breathing child from another country seeking refuge from violence. If that child were American, white, Christian and died at a foreign embassy or as a result of foreign action/inaction...well, I'm sure you can see where it goes from there.  Right Otto Warmbier?

But let's take it up a notch.  Where is the outrage for Puerto Rico?  And those are US citizens.  Haiti?  Rwanda?  Myanmar?  Sudan? Congo?  Afghanistan? Syria? Yemen? Somalia? Are they pro-life or just...pro-some life?

Do we limit the concept of life as simply living or should we show our humanity and demand it mean living without pain, fear, famine, starvation, war, etc....? 

If you're going to be pro-life then be pro-life.  This picking and choosing crap is hypocritical, inhumane, elitist, unethical and amoral.  Anti-abortion has never been about pro-life.  It's always been about subjugation, control and power.

1. Well there is a lack of outrage maybe because none knows about it? I have not seen it on TV and its not on the front page of any major news source. To find this story you would need to see it shared or you would have to seek it themselves. The Otto Warmbier situation had lots of coverage so a lot of people were able to learn about it and they got outraged. I will admit that there is more outrage from Americans towards the mistreatment of other Americans but this is something thats common in other nations. I do disagree that race or religion has anything to do with this though. Many people in the pro life movement comes from many different backgrounds so it wouldn't make sense for there to be a bias there.

2. In these cases of disaster many groups like the Catholic church, and other Christian groups who are pro life have spoken out and helped. Catholic charities is a big one https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/our-ministry/disaster-relief/ . You also have other organizations like Save the Children that help. https://www.savethechildren.org/us/what-we-do/emergency-response/historical-emergencies/hurricane-maria

CaptainExplosion said:
jason1637 said:

This is some of the dumbest shit i've ever seen. Being pro life has nothing to do with race. Some religions are against abortion but there is no hierarchy.

If it's not about race, then why is there no outrage from the pro-life crowd when migrant children die in Trump's camps? Or all the Yemeni children he helped murder by backing Saudi Arabia's bombing of Yemen?

Well people are not happy about these things and pro lifers and the country as a whole tbh dont support it. I do agree that pro life groups can and should do more.

Like i mentioned earlier Americans in general dont pay as much attention to other countries. I personally think that should change but still none is happy about it.



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TallSilhouette on 23 May 2019

How many more tantrums is this guy gonna throw?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/us/politics/donald-trump-speech-pelosi-schumer.html



EricHiggin on 23 May 2019
SpokenTruth said:
sundin13 said:

A) The fuck is that metaphor?

B) Yes, Crowder is a safe space for a right wing internet personality.

Allow me to retort directly as I did a few minutes ago for another analogy of his.

"Such irrelevant juxtaposition that approaches non-sequitur levels of irrationality should not be used to promote your positions. Ever."

It's fairly well known when it comes to Shapiro, that he's known for "destroying" his opponents. Based on the definition of destroy, and how Ben is being painted as being "destroyed" in this interview, much like how the famous guy was destroyed before his speech, I don't see the disconnect. The comparison was about always being prepared to be destroyed because some will be ok with how it comes to pass, even if it's devilishly deceitful.



Alby_da_Wolf on 23 May 2019
CaptainExplosion said:
jason1637 said:

This is some of the dumbest shit i've ever seen. Being pro life has nothing to do with race. Some religions are against abortion but there is no hierarchy.

If it's not about race, then why is there no outrage from the pro-life crowd when migrant children die in Trump's camps? Or all the Yemeni children he helped murder by backing Saudi Arabia's bombing of Yemen?

I agree about hypocrisy, but Democrats are equally guilty as Republicans of backing not just Saudi Arabia, that besides bombing Yemen, funds terrorists under the table, but also Pakistan, double agent too on terrorism, and Turkey, that always counted on alliance with USA to keep on trampling on Kurds' and Armenians' rights (and this is not just immoral, but also masochistic for USA, as an independent Kurdistan and a larger independent Armenia could have helped a lot to stabilise Middle East and weaken fundamentalism, actually even letting just Iraqi Kurdistan become independent could have kept Saddam under control without another war that actually ended up strengthening fundamentalism and destabilising the whole region, but Turkey didn't like even that for fear it could trigger Turkish Kurds too, and USA offered its ass at 90° to the Turkish diktat).



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Alby_da_Wolf on 23 May 2019
CaptainExplosion said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

I agree about hypocrisy, but Democrats are equally guilty as Republicans of backing not just Saudi Arabia, that besides bombing Yemen, funds terrorists under the table, but also Pakistan, double agent too on terrorism, and Turkey, that always counted on alliance with USA to keep on trampling on Kurds' and Armenians' rights (and this is not just immoral, but also masochistic for USA, as an independent Kurdistan and a larger independent Armenia could have helped a lot to stabilise Middle East and weaken fundamentalism, actually even letting just Iraqi Kurdistan become independent could have kept Saddam under control without another war that actually ended up strengthening fundamentalism and destabilising the whole region, but Turkey didn't like even that for fear it could trigger Turkish Kurds too, and USA offered its ass at 90° to the Turkish diktat).

Then how has America not bombed Saudi Arabia when the Saudis are obviously funding terrorists?

That's exactly what I meant! Even before Trump, even during Democrat administrations, they kept on backing Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey, despite this is not by any means the lesser evil. IMVHO, it's a deadly mix of hypocrisy, short-sighted greed, old style realpolitik gone tortuously wrong, and incompetence, as just one of these reasons couldn't explain it alone.



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sundin13 on 24 May 2019
the-pi-guy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDOo5nDJwgA

Washington Post has a good video covering the alteration.

Worth noting that this isn't talking about the video Trump posted. He posted essentially a supercut of Pelosi's misspeaking at a different press conference, which you could do with pretty much anyone, especially Trump.

Here is a recent example where Trump could not for the life of him say the word "origins":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUPsNgmXR7M

"I hope they now go and take a look at the oranges- wh- the oranges of the ehhh uhhhhh investigation"



sethnintendo on 24 May 2019

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-gerrymandering/u-s-supreme-court-blocks-redrawing-of-ohio-michigan-electoral-maps-idUSKCN1SU292

Gerrymandering mother fuckers



TallSilhouette on 24 May 2019

Meanwhile, in the latest push for discrimination and persecution:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/us/politics/donald-trump-transgender-protections.html



jason1637 on 24 May 2019
TallSilhouette said:
Meanwhile, in the latest push for discrimination and persecution:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/us/politics/donald-trump-transgender-protections.html

That's a pretty sad read. Even though people have differing opinions on if people can change their gender I think most people can agree that they should be treated like everyone else. A bad proposal imo.



sundin13 on 25 May 2019
SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

That's a pretty sad read. Even though people have differing opinions on if people can change their gender I think most people can agree that they should be treated like everyone else. A bad proposal imo.

It's pretty mind blowing that some people want to openly mitigate, disparage, harm, oppress, etc...someone else for simply existing.  I just don't understand that.

Trump seems to think that the only thing you need to do to win over a demographic is to print a shirt proclaiming how much they love you:

Yeah, I'm sure a shirt with a rainbow on it will make up for all of the times you rolled back rights and protections for LGBTQ individuals... Brilliant move.