"Who do they vote for when nothing ever changes?"

>For candidates who will change things.

"I don't think it is the responsibility of those being murdered to write the laws which would prevent them from being murdered."

>They should make it their responsibility. They should stick their heads deep into this issue and contribute a maximum amount into the writing of these laws as physically possible. Them being so passive about these laws tells me they don't care that much...

"That said, I think massive changes need to occur at all levels to change the relationship between the police and the people, and change the relationship between the people and those found guilty/accused of crimes. While this only addresses one small piece of a huge problem, I think this is a good start:

https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions#solutionsoverview"

>Which of these proposals do you think would have prevented Floyd's death?

You seemed to have completely ignored my first point, so I see no reason to repeat myself on that.

As for my second point, I think your twisting of what I said is an incredibly shitty thing to do. I never said that anyone was being passive about these laws, so for you to even make these accusations I think is pretty illuminating about your mindset on the issues. There are many people who are being proactive about these laws. I posted one example of that in my comment. However, my point was that the fact that people like you are demanding that the victims write the laws is in itself a perversion of justice. It is not the way that these things should work. It is due to a complete failure of the system, and we should demand that the system improves and does its fucking job. The many people and organization who are putting forward policy proposals and demands are going above and beyond what should be required of them, so for you to accuse them of not caring, man that fucking pisses me off...

As for the last point, something I often like to say in regards to mass shootings is that we shouldn't look to implement reactive policies to prevent one specific instance. We should be proactive instead of reacting. We should look to do the most good, instead of trying to prevent something that has already happened. That said, I think numerous things that were listed on that site could have made a difference, most notably changing how officers respond to minor offenses and improving training. The thing is, a lot of this comes down to changing mindsets. It isn't about saying or doing one specific thing, it is about fundamentally changing the relationship between police and the community, and that is something which cannot be done just by making one or two small changes. It requires foundational change.

I am seriously struggling to accept that you could legitimately be this naive.

Your behaviour is in-line with what the protests are about in the first place ... many people do not believe that the system works, from their subjective viewpoint. The outcomes they experience in their day-to-day lives are living proof to them that it doesn't work. They are trying to communicate this to naive people like you in the mainstream who just gaslight them and tell them to go back to voting and it'll all be ok.

Please at least make an attempt to learn inference as a skill for critical thinking.

What the actual f***.

*edit: Dammit Hiku why did you link those things....  I kept watching (scrolling down twitter) and theres like clips of cops getting beat the hell outta on there and dragged through the streets, vids of of a shop owner, takeing a sword to swing at looters, and then getting stomped/kicked until hes dead. WTF.....  Rioting looks crazy.  Too much for me man.

Tell me about it. No context whatsoever for some of these cases and apparently US police use pepper sprays that look like those you use to water the flowers. 

Seriously.. Just read some of the stuff that guy is posting and tell me you should take everything and every one of his clips at face value.

As a non american..... my "idea" of this riot right now is just the small bits on the news, and then these twitter links he posted.

I scrolled down and saw a vid with some cops getting beat and dragged around.
I saw one with a man that swung a sword at looters, only to get ganged up on by a mob and kicked until his body is in a odd shape, and obviously dead.
Theres pictures of cop cars over turnt, and smashed up, shops on fire.

You scratch your head and go "wtf is happening over there!".
Twitter makes it seem alot more serious than the news reports.

Police violence is a global issue, but in USA it is more complex due to how police operates.

It really isnt. Most places it rarely happends, and when it does, they are charged for it.
Its mainly a USA issue.

Watch this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_IN4Z1IpOg

Watch from 5mins on.
He talks about how cops in the US, treat you, vs how cops in germany (europe in general) treat you.

Short story:
He got pulled over, and hes thinking "oh no, cops, Im a blank man, here we go again".
The cop is like "I notice your plate is hanging lose, with just 1 screw and is about to fall off"
Hes like "oh sh*t we didnt know, we ll fix it right away sir, no problem"  (no ticket, no warnings nothing)
--> what happend was cop asked him if he wanted help with it? and the cop offered, saying they had time for it. They carry tools around in car.
The law enforcer, helped him get the plate secured, and and wished him a good day and drove off after.

Thats how most cops in europe are.
Vastly differnt than how cops in the US act.

In Germany it is also an issue and in many countries, USA is whole mess and cant compare for sure.

It is like the police force in america are getting no structure on how to handle things,people often forget most cops are just normal people just like themselves.
And in these cases it just looks like they're just let loose without clear orders or else getting orders that give too much freedom/risk.