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sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:

What you said prior:

"You asked if Trump talking to these chanters would lead to a constructive outcome. I said no, because no one cares about what he says, when 99% of what he says is bullshit. Same with the apology. I don't believe an apology would change anything, unless he acted in kind, in which case, yes, I would accept that apology."

How I replied:

"Your answer was, "no, Trump cannot talk himself out of his actions. He needs to act." So in other words, it doesn't matter what Trump does, he's getting treated like dirt regardless, unless he does exactly what the naysayers tell him to do. Don't the naysayers also believe in democracy? Hmm..."

Doesn't seem like you remember what you've already said, so there's no point in trying to re-explain 1-5 as well.

You seem to really be struggling here, man...

Again, I stated he needed to act. I did not state that he needed to do "exactly what the naysayers tell him to do", whatever that means. That is you just making shit up.

I did say, as you highlighted, that his apology wouldn't be accepted unless he acted in kind. Basically, what that means is simply that his actions need to reinforce his words. You are the one who asked me this hypothetical about him apologizing, so I'm not sure why you are making it out to be unreasonable for me to ask him to act as if he truly meant that apology.

The way you are twisting this conversation is absolutely bizarre. To take a fairly banal point, that "actions speak louder than words" and twist it into some way of expressing that voicing discontent is somehow anti-democratic- Like, I can't even. How does your brain go from A to Zebra like this?

I dunno how, but it sure does struggle trying to understand your H to the is O, V to the is A. Maybe try rap instead?



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EricHiggin said:
sundin13 said:

You seem to really be struggling here, man...

Again, I stated he needed to act. I did not state that he needed to do "exactly what the naysayers tell him to do", whatever that means. That is you just making shit up.

I did say, as you highlighted, that his apology wouldn't be accepted unless he acted in kind. Basically, what that means is simply that his actions need to reinforce his words. You are the one who asked me this hypothetical about him apologizing, so I'm not sure why you are making it out to be unreasonable for me to ask him to act as if he truly meant that apology.

The way you are twisting this conversation is absolutely bizarre. To take a fairly banal point, that "actions speak louder than words" and twist it into some way of expressing that voicing discontent is somehow anti-democratic- Like, I can't even. How does your brain go from A to Zebra like this?

I dunno how, but it sure does struggle trying to understand your H to the is O, V to the is A. Maybe try rap instead?

Dafuq? Is a bad joke really all you have to say for yourself?



sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:

I dunno how, but it sure does struggle trying to understand your H to the is O, V to the is A. Maybe try rap instead?

Dafuq? Is a bad joke really all you have to say for yourself?

Eric's T-shirt doesn't grant him superpowers.



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sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:

I dunno how, but it sure does struggle trying to understand your H to the is O, V to the is A. Maybe try rap instead?

Dafuq? Is a bad joke really all you have to say for yourself?

Forgive me father for I have sinned?



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:

I dunno how, but it sure does struggle trying to understand your H to the is O, V to the is A. Maybe try rap instead?

Dafuq? Is a bad joke really all you have to say for yourself?

You should have known that your conversation with Eric was always going to head in this direction.  



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So after a few sworn testimony, is there any doubt about the President quid pro quo or do anyone have any good arguments against it. Just wondering if the narrative will move to another stage or are people still trying to argue this point.



Machiavellian said:
So after a few sworn testimony, is there any doubt about the President quid pro quo or do anyone have any good arguments against it. Just wondering if the narrative will move to another stage or are people still trying to argue this point.

The opposition never had an argument against the actual facts to begin with.  They put all their focus on fighting the process.  Then the House provides the very process they opposition demanded.  But expect a new goal post from them soon.



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Machiavellian said:
sundin13 said:

Dafuq? Is a bad joke really all you have to say for yourself?

You should have known that your conversation with Eric was always going to head in this direction.  

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The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

Quick election update:
-Kentucky Governor has flipped from R to D! This is a pretty big deal because there will likely be an executive order restoring voting rights to many previously convicted individuals which could further shift the voter demographics of the state. Further, this will provide someone to veto all of the ridiculous abortion laws that Kentucky has been putting forward of late. Very good news which is made extra sweet by the fact that Trump was in Kentucky yesterday on behalf of the Republican candidate, saying if the Republican lost, it would look real bad for Trump.

-Virginia looks like it will have a Democratic State Senate and a Democratic State House (although these races are ongoing). A preliminary count shows 2 Democrats beating Republican incumbents in the State Senate and 4 Democrats beating Republican Incumbents in the State House compared to zero the other way (several races did not have an incumbent, and these races were not counted towards this tally).

Further info on the other races will continue to come in throughout the night.

EDIT: One more thing. New York has voted in favor of implementing a Ranked Choice voting system which would begin utilization in 2021. Interesting change which I am very much in favor of. Wish it was happening sooner.

Last edited by sundin13 - on 05 November 2019

sundin13 said:

Quick election update:
-Kentucky Governor has flipped from R to D! This is a pretty big deal because there will likely be an executive order restoring voting rights to many previously convicted individuals which could further shift the voter demographics of the state. Further, this will provide someone to veto all of the ridiculous abortion laws that Kentucky has been putting forward of late. Very good news which is made extra sweet by the fact that Trump was in Kentucky yesterday on behalf of the Republican candidate, saying if the Republican lost, it would look real bad for Trump.

-Virginia looks like it will have a Democratic State Senate and a Democratic State House (although these races are ongoing). A preliminary count shows 2 Democrats beating Republican incumbents in the State Senate and 4 Democrats beating Republican Incumbents in the State House compared to zero the other way (several races did not have an incumbent, and these races were not counted towards this tally).

Further info on the other races will continue to come in throughout the night.

EDIT: One more thing. New York has voted in favor of implementing a Ranked Choice voting system which would begin utilization in 2021. Interesting change which I am very much in favor of. Wish it was happening sooner.

For such a red state, it's surprising how many Democratic governors Kentucky gets.