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SuaveSocialist on 16 February 2020
DarkD said:

Universal healthcare gives healthcare to more people true, but it also provides a lower standard of care.  

Actually, it provides a higher standard of care. Having more patients requires better staff, superior technology, and greater efficiency to deal with the increased workload.  Plus it avails the full range of options for treating patients, to all patients, as insurance companies lose their ability to impose arbitrary limitations and deny care.   



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Bofferbrauer2 on 16 February 2020
Snoopy said:
SpokenTruth said:

Tell us again what he is doing that's so special that wasn't already being done for the past decade.

Going by that graph, looks like Republicans take control when the economy does well. Kind of like the comparison between California and Texas. Also there are more jobs than workers vs 10% unemployment rate under Obama and the Demorats. Thank you Donald and Republicans for saving our Country.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-u-s-has-1-million-more-job-openings-than-unemployed-workers/

Corrected.

And then they wreck it Like Bush wrecked the economy in 2007 and Obama inherited his wrecked economy and had to clean up his entire tenure.

Also as you can see, Obama brought the unemployment down to below 5% already. That's not Trump magically eliminating the unemployment, he inherited low unemployment. Same did Bush from Clinton btw. 



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KLAMarine on 16 February 2020
the-pi-guy said:
KLAMarine said:

Looks more like a quoting of Trump:

Trump's claim that 'immigrants cause all the crime'.

Hopefully Runa can clear things up soon...

Runa shouldn't have to explain how language works.

If anyone is going to explain how Runa's post works, it should be Runa. I can't think of anyone else more qualified.

Or he could let his silence speak for itself. Not an advisable course of action since his claim will go on unsubstantiated.



KLAMarine on 16 February 2020
DarkD said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Not really. Public healthcare is definitely a higher standard than no healthcare. And for those that pay to use private healthcare... well you could still do that! The existence of a public healthcare system doesn't mean you have to use it. You can still pay more for private healthcare and get a better standard if you want to/can afford to.

It would probably make private healthcare cheaper too. One of the side effects of having cheaper (albeit lower quality) competition rather than the alternative just being death.

Sure, I just don't like people using misleading taglines.  I'm actually for universal healthcare. 

Like 80% of the left's policies aren't anywhere NEAR as convincing as CNN and the DNC makes them out to be when you get a detailed explanation. Often they're supported by the same type of studies anti-vaxxers and other quack medicine uses.  

I'm more about 

-illegalizing trans hormone blockers before puberty.

-pro nuclear power

-pro free speech

-against antifa violence (violence is literally their policy)

-against solar and wind power (horrible for the environment)

Honestly I'm not even conservative.  I just can't stand the rhetoric from the left this cycle.  It's literally THICK with provable lies.  Calling everyone and their mother nazi's.  Phony impeachment.  Bending over backwards to gain votes from the extreme left.  Cancel culture.  Forced politics in entertainment.  Blaming literally everything in the world on white men.  Lying about evidence to make global warming sound worse than it is.  

"-against solar and wind power (horrible for the environment)"

>How are these bad for the environment?



DarkD on 16 February 2020
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Looks like you fell right into the Alt-right/4chan trap:

Most of these actions are actually false-flag operations to paint Antifa in a very negative light. I do agree that violence is not the answer, and they had some violent outbursts, which I highly condemn - but as historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat puts it: Throwing a Milkshake at someone ain't the same as killing someone. Also, most of the violence actually comes from defending other people from Neonazis and the like: https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/14/cornel_west_rev_toni_blackmon_clergy

Also,what war did Obama start? He inherited several wars from Bush (Afgahnistan, Irak) and intervened into some existing wars (Syria and Libya, to stop ISIS) , but started? None actually. And he started his tenure by talking with Saudi-Arabia, Iran, Cuba, to avoid coming wars - but those talks of Obama got demonized as much by right-wing media as they praised Trump for trying to do the same with North Korea (unsuccessfully, since they neither stopped they nuclear weapons program or their rocket tests). And praise they do, just look how they described Obama at Fox News at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-cZG81-MPQ

Fits much more to Trump I'd say - but Fox would never treat him like they treated Obama.

You kidding me, are The Young Turks also a false flag operation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn8trVx7s7Q 5 minutes in he dances around it as much as possible, but basically admits "antifa will do anything necessary including violence". https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

"Some employ radical or militant tactics"

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/who-are-antifa

"Their presence at a protest is intended to intimidate and dissuade racists, but the use of violent measures by some antifa against their adversaries can create a vicious, self-defeating cycle of attacks, counter-attacks and blame. This is why most established civil rights organizations criticize antifa tactics as dangerous and counterproductive."

Clearly, CNN, TYT and The Anti Defamation League are a false flag operation by the right....  And I don't even know the incidents you brought up. 

And the wars he started were the countless countries he started dropping bombs in from Turkey to Syria.  How many times did he drop one on a funeral or a school because he decided to use drones.  

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DarkD on 16 February 2020
the-pi-guy said:

Based on your post, your only exposure to leftist is through Breitbart and 4chan. 

Doubt you've ever had a honest attempt to understand a leftists's viewpoint 

This thread is supposed to be for debate. if you aren't here to debate then go somewhere else.  I literally gave you a page worth of topics to argue with me on and you offer me a "You're biased and I'm ABOVE debating people from opposing viewpoints".



DarkD on 16 February 2020
KLAMarine said:

"-against solar and wind power (horrible for the environment)"

>How are these bad for the environment?

Solar power comes with batteries.  The batteries actually make solar power the worst form of energy.  Wind power is just nonsense. Trees are one of the best methods of removing carbon from the air and wind requires us to cut enormous amounts of them down to get any effect.  Not to mention they come with bird graveyards.  



Snoopy on 16 February 2020
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Snoopy said:

Going by that graph, looks like Republicans take control when the economy does well. Kind of like the comparison between California and Texas. Also there are more jobs than workers vs 10% unemployment rate under Obama and the Demorats. Thank you Donald and Republicans for saving our Country.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-u-s-has-1-million-more-job-openings-than-unemployed-workers/

Corrected.

And then they wreck it Like Bush wrecked the economy in 2007 and Obama inherited his wrecked economy and had to clean up his entire tenure.

Also as you can see, Obama brought the unemployment down to below 5% already. That's not Trump magically eliminating the unemployment, he inherited low unemployment. Same did Bush from Clinton btw. 

Actually, the economy started to get bad when Democrats took over the house and started to recover when Republicans took it back.  The house holds more power than the president if overtaken by the opposition party. Basic politics 101.  Look how low the unemployment rate is when Republicans control everything.

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KLAMarine on 16 February 2020
DarkD said:
KLAMarine said:

"-against solar and wind power (horrible for the environment)"

>How are these bad for the environment?

Solar power comes with batteries.  The batteries actually make solar power the worst form of energy.  Wind power is just nonsense. Trees are one of the best methods of removing carbon from the air and wind requires us to cut enormous amounts of them down to get any effect.  Not to mention they come with bird graveyards.  

"Solar power comes with batteries.  The batteries actually make solar power the worst form of energy."

>Wouldn't any electricity-producing process require batteries for storage?

"Wind power is just nonsense. Trees are one of the best methods of removing carbon from the air and wind requires us to cut enormous amounts of them down to get any effect."

>Why would trees need to be cut down?

"Not to mention they come with bird graveyards."

>How?



DarkD on 16 February 2020
KLAMarine said:
DarkD said:

Solar power comes with batteries.  The batteries actually make solar power the worst form of energy.  Wind power is just nonsense. Trees are one of the best methods of removing carbon from the air and wind requires us to cut enormous amounts of them down to get any effect.  Not to mention they come with bird graveyards.  

"Solar power comes with batteries.  The batteries actually make solar power the worst form of energy."

>Wouldn't any electricity-producing process require batteries for storage?

"Wind power is just nonsense. Trees are one of the best methods of removing carbon from the air and wind requires us to cut enormous amounts of them down to get any effect."

>Why would trees need to be cut down?

"Not to mention they come with bird graveyards."

>How?

You have google right?  Do I need to do everything.  These aren't obscure facts.  

https://fcpp.org/2018/09/11/which-kill-more-birds-oil-sands-or-wind-turbines/

Wind turbines kill 8.2 birds per turbine per year

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10546071/Millions-of-trees-chopped-down-to-make-way-for-Scottish-wind-farms.html

Title of the article.  Enough said on deforestation.  

As for solar power, because it only works in the daytime, they need batteries to store excess power for night.