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Did you actually read the article about the rhino? Apparently that country/park is known to allow 5 rhinos to be hunted/killed per year. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with that. Literally zero.

All we allowed is them to import it after they already had the permits etc to hunt/kill it in the first place. Our decision had absolutely ZERO impact on the rhino population as the same number of animals would have been killed regardless of this decision.



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Baalzamon said:
Did you actually read the article about the rhino? Apparently that country/park is known to allow 5 rhinos to be hunted/killed per year. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with that. Literally zero.

All we allowed is them to import it after they already had the permits etc to hunt/kill it in the first place. Our decision had absolutely ZERO impact on the rhino population as the same number of animals would have been killed regardless of this decision.

But by allowing this they'll only encourage more of America's scummiest to do the same, killing more endangered animals just for the hell of it.



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I think that is a bit of a stretch.

As it is, the hunting is limited to older, agitated non-breeding males.

Delegates from countries across the globe actually JUST voted to approve an increase (to approximately 9 per year). This is based on past precedent that shows improvements as a result of hunting. These aging rhinos are territorial and will interfere with other rhinos trying to mate (thus actually hurting the population).

Overall, the population has went from 2300 to 5000 since 1992, so I think it can be agreed as a world, we are being successful in our attempts to bring the population back.



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The bigger issue with these animals is (and always has been) poaching. Not legal hunting intended to assist with population growth.

These poachers do not care about the strict regulations discussed above.

We also aren't allowing poached animals to be legally imported into the United States.



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Baalzamon said:
I think that is a bit of a stretch.

As it is, the hunting is limited to older, agitated non-breeding males.

Delegates from countries across the globe actually JUST voted to approve an increase (to approximately 9 per year). This is based on past precedent that shows improvements as a result of hunting. These aging rhinos are territorial and will interfere with other rhinos trying to mate (thus actually hurting the population).

Overall, the population has went from 2300 to 5000 since 1992, so I think it can be agreed as a world, we are being successful in our attempts to bring the population back.

That sounds like bullshit, and a bullshit reason to kill the rhino in the first place.

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Ok, so I do actual research regarding legalized black rhino hunting, but you can apparently just counter it with "that sounds like bullshit". On the contrary, I think it sounds perfectly legitimate.

As indicated, there is a giant difference between true legal trophy hunting and...poaching. I'm not going to say that the hunters themselves give a rats ass about the population (or positive impacts that the rule is in place for)...but the rule is absolutely intended to positively impact the population. Trophy hunters tend to pretty much care...about the trophy. But at least these particular ones are following guidelines intended to help the population thrive.



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Baalzamon said:
Ok, so I do actual research regarding legalized black rhino hunting, but you can apparently just counter it with "that sounds like bullshit". On the contrary, I think it sounds perfectly legitimate.

As indicated, there is a giant difference between true legal trophy hunting and...poaching. I'm not going to say that the hunters themselves give a rats ass about the population (or positive impacts that the rule is in place for)...but the rule is absolutely intended to positively impact the population. Trophy hunters tend to pretty much care...about the trophy. But at least these particular ones are following guidelines intended to help the population thrive.

Look back at my previous post.



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Remember how gigantic of a scandal it was that Hillary Clinton used private email to conduct government business?

Jared Kushner and Ivanka have both been doing it and the media doesn't even peep because it's nowhere near as bad as the other things the Trumps are doing. This is how much worse Trump is than Clinton.

Obama wore tanned pants once, and THAT was a major scandal.

Trump and his enablers have normalized scandal and unpresidential behavior to the point we have long since become desensitized to it.

The minor infractions of yesteryear are almost alien to us now.

It's incredible just how much of a blind eye the tan suit pearl clutchers have turned....or secretly welcome because it's no longer a black man in office.



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CaptainExplosion said:
Baalzamon said:
Did you actually read the article about the rhino? Apparently that country/park is known to allow 5 rhinos to be hunted/killed per year. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with that. Literally zero.

All we allowed is them to import it after they already had the permits etc to hunt/kill it in the first place. Our decision had absolutely ZERO impact on the rhino population as the same number of animals would have been killed regardless of this decision.

But by allowing this they'll only encourage more of America's scummiest to do the same, killing more endangered animals just for the hell of it.

That is exactly the point. They WANT and they NEED rich Americans to go there and shoot a couple of animals. Or to say it with the words of the wildlife protection service:

"“Legal, well-regulated hunting as part of a sound management program can benefit the conservation of certain species by providing incentives to local communities to conserve the species and by putting much-needed revenue back into conservation,” said Laury Parramore, spokeswoman for the Fish and Wildlife Service."

They're killing a handful of animals to save hundreds of them. It's similar to the regular practice of legal domestic hunters that kill game to preserve the population. Feel free to donate a few millions from your own money so that they're not dependent on hunting anymore.



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So the United Auto Workers are on strike against General Motors now for the first time since 2007. (Live updates here.) It's the largest strike action against an American company to take place in the U.S. since...the last time the United Auto Workers went on strike against General Motors in 2007. Nearly 50,000 workers are participating, demanding better pay and health care benefits, job protections, expanded profit sharing, and more. GM workers made huge sacrifices during the company's bankruptcy proceedings amidst the Great Recession, but the company has returned to making tens of billions in profits since then and the workers are wondering why as much is not reflected in their pay and benefits.

Thanks mainly to a wave of teacher strikes, the largest number of work stoppages, and of workers participating in work stoppages, since the 1980s was seen last year, and total number of unionized workers increased for the first time in decades. This year's totals could be higher. It appears we are witnessing a new trend toward the revitalization of the American labor movement.

I've got no further comment except to say that I fully support this action and movement unequivocally. I hope this trend continues.