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Who cares that entertainment is cheaper when healthcare, housing & education have skyrocketed in costs?

"I cant afford to go to college, see the doctor or buy a house..........well at least League of Legends is free"



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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zorg1000 said:
Who cares that entertainment is cheaper when healthcare, housing & education have skyrocketed in costs?

"I cant afford to go to college, see the doctor or buy a house..........well at least League of Legends is free"

Education, Health care, and housing are all heavily controlled by the government. That is why they are so expensive.



SpokenTruth said:
Snoopy said:

Education, Health care, and housing are all heavily controlled by the government. That is why they are so expensive.

You really just said that.  Without irony even. 

The guarantee of the government to pay for services is not a direct function of cost.  Those high costs are a direct function of a capitalistic greed that knows they can charge maximum rates for guaranteed services.

If you look at virtually anything where the government has a lot of control, the cost goes up significantly. 



SpokenTruth said:
zorg1000 said:
Who cares that entertainment is cheaper when healthcare, housing & education have skyrocketed in costs?

"I cant afford to go to college, see the doctor or buy a house..........well at least League of Legends is free"

I seriously feel like we just had a 'let them eat cake' moment.

Let them LoL



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

the-pi-guy said:
Snoopy said:

Education, Health care, and housing are all heavily controlled by the government. That is why they are so expensive.

Despite the fact that there are literally dozens of examples that prove you wrong and zero examples that prove you right.  Perhaps particularly with healthcare.  

Despite the fact that health insurance has gotten more expensive when the federal government got more involved.



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A 3000 square foot house doesn't provide any more "need" for somebody vs a 1000 square foot house than a game of League of Legends.

Let's not pretend here like somebody making even $20,000 per year can't afford the true needs to live (water, food, some form of shelter, and air). The fact is, free services available to many today do provide a value to people.

Regarding the inability to invest, it's a lost cause attempting to argue the point, as people who don't get it simply don't get it, and will always come up with a reason on why it isn't possible for them, and how they are an exception. Meanwhile, I'll continue to invest, as I did while working at Sam's Club making $8.50/hour in college pushing carts.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Baalzamon said:
A 3000 square foot house doesn't provide any more "need" for somebody vs a 1000 square foot house than a game of League of Legends.

Let's not pretend here like somebody making even $20,000 per year can't afford the true needs to live (water, food, some form of shelter, and air). The fact is, free services available to many today do provide a value to people.

Regarding the inability to invest, it's a lost cause attempting to argue the point, as people who don't get it simply don't get it, and will always come up with a reason on why it isn't possible for them, and how they are an exception. Meanwhile, I'll continue to invest, as I did while working at Sam's Club making $8.50/hour in college pushing carts.

When it comes to housing, money doesn't just buy size (although size may be important for individuals with multiple members in their household). It also buys things such as general safety, cleanliness, access to resources, access to quality schooling, etc...

Your attitude regarding this issue seems to be far too reductive.

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Healthcare is a very tricky subject to discuss "need" and affordability now vs the past, as healthcare is massively better now than in the past.

While availability of healthcare is obviously very important to many, I'm able to get doctors appointments over the internet now for instance for $49. With this, I'm able to get prescribed many medications (such as eye drops when I had pink eye earlier this year). This same option, simply put, was not available in 2005 (just picked a random year). I absolutely had to schedule and go into a doctor's that would have cost me substantially more than $49.

I'm not certain what types of studies have been done and whether similar care has also gone up in cost massively, or if a lot of the increases actually relate more to substantially more expensive testing, better medication, etc.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

My attitude regarding this is based on seeing and hearing oftentimes what people who struggle live like.

It's based on seeing people go out every weekend. Drive new cars. Live in giant houses. Buy lottery tickets. Smoke cigarettes. Buy $5 coffees. Get brand new electronics all the time. Eating out all the time. Screw around at work and manage to get fired. Be jobless and refuse to apply for temp jobs that are "below" them. Go on expensive vacations. Have more kids than a normal person could afford. Doing drugs. Drinking too much. Getting $100 gym memberships instead of exercising outside. Getting pets they can't afford. (Do you get the point here, I can go on, but these are things that even many families pulling in $20k a year partake in).

This isn't an all inclusive thing. I get it, some people have really SHITTY circumstances that can result in life becoming very difficult. But the large majority of people? They make CHOICES, which then result in them struggling.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

the-pi-guy said:
Snoopy said:

Despite the fact that health insurance has gotten more expensive when the federal government got more involved.

It's gotten more expensive every year, so it's not really a point...  

Other country's costs have grown slower than ours despite greater involvement.  

It has gotten a lot more expensive since the Affordable care act was passed for the middle class. Also, a lot of those countries with "free health care" is much more expensive to live in compare to US unless you are in a liberal stronghold like New York or California.