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Baalzamon on 17 September 2019

I struggle with the idea these workers have it so tough. They make $63/hour including benefits (pension, insurance, etc). If they really want more of GM's money (as they absolutely are profitable right now)...they are MORE than welcome to buy stock in the company, which might not be too reliable provided they went bankrupt 10 years ago...

Obviously it's easy for them to ask for raises when times are good (like now), but it seems like this is going to hurt GM in a big way when sales finally trend down in a recession.



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Baalzamon on 17 September 2019

I've worked for a union construction employer before (I was a non union employee in the office), and have mixed views on it. While it absolutely pays good wages to employees (and is good to see employees well taken care of), it increases the cost of construction massively.



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HylianSwordsman on 17 September 2019
Jaicee said:

So the United Auto Workers are on strike against General Motors now for the first time since 2007. (Live updates here.) It's the largest strike action against an American company to take place in the U.S. since...the last time the United Auto Workers went on strike against General Motors in 2007. Nearly 50,000 workers are participating, demanding better pay and health care benefits, job protections, expanded profit sharing, and more. GM workers made huge sacrifices during the company's bankruptcy proceedings amidst the Great Recession, but the company has returned to making tens of billions in profits since then and the workers are wondering why as much is not reflected in their pay and benefits.

Thanks mainly to a wave of teacher strikes, the largest number of work stoppages, and of workers participating in work stoppages, since the 1980s was seen last year, and total number of unionized workers increased for the first time in decades. This year's totals could be higher. It appears we are witnessing a new trend toward the revitalization of the American labor movement.

I've got no further comment except to say that I fully support this action and movement unequivocally. I hope this trend continues.

Did you see this? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hoffa-teamsters-stand-solidarity-striking-gm-uaw-members-165200840.html

Boo yah! Solidarity forever baby! I'm so proud of them.



HylianSwordsman on 17 September 2019
Machiavellian said:
Jaicee said:

So the United Auto Workers are on strike against General Motors now for the first time since 2007. (Live updates here.) It's the largest strike action against an American company to take place in the U.S. since...the last time the United Auto Workers went on strike against General Motors in 2007. Nearly 50,000 workers are participating, demanding better pay and health care benefits, job protections, expanded profit sharing, and more. GM workers made huge sacrifices during the company's bankruptcy proceedings amidst the Great Recession, but the company has returned to making tens of billions in profits since then and the workers are wondering why as much is not reflected in their pay and benefits.

Thanks mainly to a wave of teacher strikes, the largest number of work stoppages, and of workers participating in work stoppages, since the 1980s was seen last year, and total number of unionized workers increased for the first time in decades. This year's totals could be higher. It appears we are witnessing a new trend toward the revitalization of the American labor movement.

I've got no further comment except to say that I fully support this action and movement unequivocally. I hope this trend continues.

Yep, this will definitely make sure they move production out of the US as fast as possible.  They will institute some stopgate measure to get people back to work while they plan on moving production even more out of the US.  Should be interesting in the next 5 years how this all plays out.

What a cowardly cop-out line. If cheaper labor makes them move overseas, they'd do it eventually anyway. This could accelerate the process, but who gives a shit? That doesn't mean the factories get demolished. An empty factory could be bought from the company by the union, and you bet your ass that I and countless others would definitely boycott the fuck out of GM and support the new American union-run factories instead of GM if they moved overseas, the whole "buy American" crowd would get on board, it would be huge. Can you imagine? Buying American made cars, knowing that every dime went to an American worker, because the CEOs that used to get the money went overseas? It'd be a damn satisfying purchase.

Of course, GM could avoid the issue altogether by staying here, NOT raising the prices on their cars, and instead just sharing more of the profit with the workers, and accepting that maybe the corporate board members don't deserve all that money.



sundin13 on 17 September 2019

Lewandoski is getting destroyed on national television right now. It is wonderful haha



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jason1637 on 17 September 2019
TallSilhouette said:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1173368423381962752?s=20

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1173434704302751744?s=20

How tf do you embed twitter links on here properly? Never figured it out.

Delete the question mark and everything following it.



HylianSwordsman on 17 September 2019
SpokenTruth said:
sundin13 said:
Lewandoski is getting destroyed on national television right now. It is wonderful haha

So he gets caught in a lie (or he's just blatantly admitted to lying to the federal investigators) during this testimony...but during a break immediately after his opening statements the dude tweeted this:

Sounds like the New Hampshire Senate seat is about to get a lot safer for Democrats.



Bofferbrauer2 on 17 September 2019
Jaicee said:

So the United Auto Workers are on strike against General Motors now for the first time since 2007. (Live updates here.) It's the largest strike action against an American company to take place in the U.S. since...the last time the United Auto Workers went on strike against General Motors in 2007. Nearly 50,000 workers are participating, demanding better pay and health care benefits, job protections, expanded profit sharing, and more. GM workers made huge sacrifices during the company's bankruptcy proceedings amidst the Great Recession, but the company has returned to making tens of billions in profits since then and the workers are wondering why as much is not reflected in their pay and benefits.

Thanks mainly to a wave of teacher strikes, the largest number of work stoppages, and of workers participating in work stoppages, since the 1980s was seen last year, and total number of unionized workers increased for the first time in decades. This year's totals could be higher. It appears we are witnessing a new trend toward the revitalization of the American labor movement.

I've got no further comment except to say that I fully support this action and movement unequivocally. I hope this trend continues.

I'm happy to see that America finally sees the value of unions and how to use them.

Machiavellian said:
Jaicee said:

So the United Auto Workers are on strike against General Motors now for the first time since 2007. (Live updates here.) It's the largest strike action against an American company to take place in the U.S. since...the last time the United Auto Workers went on strike against General Motors in 2007. Nearly 50,000 workers are participating, demanding better pay and health care benefits, job protections, expanded profit sharing, and more. GM workers made huge sacrifices during the company's bankruptcy proceedings amidst the Great Recession, but the company has returned to making tens of billions in profits since then and the workers are wondering why as much is not reflected in their pay and benefits.

Thanks mainly to a wave of teacher strikes, the largest number of work stoppages, and of workers participating in work stoppages, since the 1980s was seen last year, and total number of unionized workers increased for the first time in decades. This year's totals could be higher. It appears we are witnessing a new trend toward the revitalization of the American labor movement.

I've got no further comment except to say that I fully support this action and movement unequivocally. I hope this trend continues.

Yep, this will definitely make sure they move production out of the US as fast as possible.  They will institute some stopgate measure to get people back to work while they plan on moving production even more out of the US.  Should be interesting in the next 5 years how this all plays out.

If that was even remotely true, then Germany wouldn't have any car production plants for a long time anymore. But they still produce tons of cars, half as many as the US in fact, which are the second biggest producer after China.

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TallSilhouette on 17 September 2019
jason1637 said:
TallSilhouette said:

How tf do you embed twitter links on here properly? Never figured it out.

Delete the question mark and everything following it.

ty



HylianSwordsman on 17 September 2019
SpokenTruth said:
HylianSwordsman said:

Sounds like the New Hampshire Senate seat is about to get a lot safer for Democrats.

Indeed.  I'm thinking who tweets about their potential senate run during the middle of a House Judiciary Committee?  And then admit to lying so blatantly in the process.

"I have no obligation to be honest with the media."

-Corey Lewandowski (R), candidate for Senator of New Hampshire.

Currently New Hampshire is rated leans D or likely D depending on who you ask, but I'd bet if Corey is the R nominee for NH Senate, the seat will get moved to safe D by everyone.