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SuperRetroTurbo said:
If anyone would like to discuss the US' judicial system, I'm all ears.

I was having a conversation this morning about it. At the end of the day, it's corrupt but to what extent?

Every time I read something like this I laugh.  A system ran by humans is corrupted to some extent? NO WAY!!  I don't mean to demean those who post this or who have real concerns, but seriously can we just be happy that our system is not a total waste of human life?  I hate to except this level of ability, but when dealing with 300 million plus people in a country you can only hope to be better than shitty and I think we are less then shitty... maybe even kind of OK.



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They are all kind of trashy... I mean who do you trust even a little bit?  Do you trust something who suddenly believes something they use to not believe in?  Do you trust someone who thinks a system that has killed hundreds of millions is a good idea?  This is really about finding someone who wont screw things up to bad till a real leader shows up.



konnichiwa said:

I learned today that affordable housing basically not exist in some areas (not really news) but I came accross this picture.

By some considered as a poor house in the bay, it is not really for the poor but for people who can't buy a house or rent app/house in the bay area.

How much does it cost for a bed and stay for a month?  1200$ a month.  Expectations are that the price can go up to 2.000$/month in five years yikes.

Whoever owns that place is really making a killing. 1200 Dollar just for such a bedspace? Even prices for simple bedrooms in Luxembourg are not that high



the-pi-guy said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Whoever owns that place is really making a killing. 1200 Dollar just for such a bedspace? Even prices for simple bedrooms in Luxembourg are not that high

It's pretty insane.  $1200 would probably get me a 4 bedroom apartment here.  

where I live you can easily have a 4 bedroom home for that amount a month.  Anyway my dad had a house in the bay area so that price doesn't surprise me.  He was living in a very small house and it costed about 350K and that was 7 years ago so I am sure the property value is much higher now.



EricHiggin said:
sundin13 said:

Yes, humans get to choose when they criticize something. Like, what?

By all means, feel free to rebut criticism whenever you feel like it, but it seems like most of your defenses have been just awful. Like, comparing Trump's comments to a restaurant review. That is bad. That is real bad. 

That is the problem with most defenses of Trump. They are often real bad. Like, you brought up the whole Russia Report not too long ago. You know, the report which outlined numerous examples of Obstruction of Justice and said a lot of things that look reaaal bad for the president. Defenses seem to either be "Obstruction of Justice is totally cool, guys", "Yeah, but what about something else" or "TOTALLY EXONERATED. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO."

You can feel free to come to whatever opinion you desire, but it isn't some sort of conspiracy when other look at those bad arguments and go "Oh. That right there is a bad argument. Huh.". If your stupid-o-meter isn't going off from this shit almost every day than you should probably get that checked out because either it is busted, or you are part of the stupid problems.

You mean like Dave Ruben? His "stupid-o-meter" went off years ago and now he finds himself siding with Trump or conservatives quite often, oddly enough. Is the meter malfunctioning? Has it been calibrated lately? Why are so many subscribing to his show?

Yes.

Dave Rubin is an idiot.

I'm not really sure why you thought that was a good argument.

Why does he have so many subscribers? I mean, asking that question at all is a bit of a logical fallacy by way of "Appeal to Popularity", but I'll briefly try to answer it. People like being told what they want to hear. That's all Dave Rubin's show is. It is not a "Battle of Ideas", it is him repeatedly spoon-feeding you the same empty, regurgitated talking points over and over again, often from the mouth of some other bottom feeding urchin like Stefan Molyneux.

Here's the first video in a three hour long video series on why The Rubin Report is terrible if you feel like killing an afternoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3TPxQao3m0



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"If you went 5 years ago that sky was brown and now if you go that sky is blue" -Kamala Harris.



Biden might have the best education plan.



I leave this thread for 5 days and I come back to 200+ posts of Sharpiegate until the mods try to direct conversation from that and the conversation continues for the rest of the thread under the more general topic of "Does Donald Trump Lie?" And it's all liberals presenting evidence straight from Trump's mouth and two people engaging in bad faith with that evidence. For 5 fucking days worth of posts. God bless the-pi-guy for taking on the job of managing this thread, and for trying to change the subject to the minimum wage, for however long that worked. This thread has a serious chronic problem that won't get better until the bad faith actors are dealt with.



SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:
"If you went 5 years ago that sky was brown and now if you go that sky is blue" -Kamala Harris.

I thought she said 15 or 20 years ago.  I missed it if she said 5 years ago.  None of my live updates are referencing it either.

She said "Twenty".



So, this debate sucks. Best debate for Biden by far, because of how boring it has been. I believe we will see nothing change.

We need in depth conversations about these issues, not one minute overviews...