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Chrkeller said:
jason1637 said:

Lol no. If someone can go to war for their country they deserve the same amount of rights as other people.

Just odd to me buying beer requires 21 years old, a gun 18.  Either way, makes no sense to me.  I don't get the gun obsession this country has.  25 years to buy, with military exception?  It can't be that hard to craft an easy attempt at a fix.  As a country we haven't even made an attempt, and that is shameful.  

Well the age to buy beer should be 18. It's pretty dumb that it's 21. There are other ways to fix the issue of mass shootings without restricting ownership to young adults. Background checks, more emphasis on mental health, cracking down on illegal weapons etc.



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Chrkeller said:
jason1637 said:

Lol no. If someone can go to war for their country they deserve the same amount of rights as other people.

Just odd to me buying beer requires 21 years old, a gun 18.  Either way, makes no sense to me.  I don't get the gun obsession this country has.  25 years to buy, with military exception?  It can't be that hard to craft an easy attempt at a fix.  As a country we haven't even made an attempt, and that is shameful.  

The required age for alcoholic beverages was decided to be 21 because you can't trust people with guns below that age. The law was passed after a teenager told another one at a pub that he could take another shot and the other guy took it literally.



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KLAMarine said:
the-pi-guy said:

Because anywhere else in the world would find 2 consecutive mass shootings to be unthinkable. 

And yet here, while considered horrible, people go on thinking that nothing can be done about it.  

So what can be done about it?

Universal mental health care, gun control, more aggressive law enforcement in regards to white supremacy. Like this isn't some uncontrollable force of nature it is very much so a uniquely American issue that is a result of our culture and or policy



The best way to stop shootings is to increase the quality of life here in the United States. It would be very easy if the Federal government-backed off and we stop electing Democrats. Most of these shootings are happening in Democrat counties due to restrictive gun control and their low standard of living.



Snoopy said:

The best way to stop shootings is to increase the quality of life here in the United States. It would be very easy if the Federal government-backed off and we stop electing Democrats. Most of these shootings are happening in Democrat counties due to restrictive gun control and their low standard of living.

Citation needed x10



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sundin13 said:
Snoopy said:

The best way to stop shootings is to increase the quality of life here in the United States. It would be very easy if the Federal government-backed off and we stop electing Democrats. Most of these shootings are happening in Democrat counties due to restrictive gun control and their low standard of living.

Citation needed x10

For which part exactly? If it is about the counties or cities, just take a look at Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, and Oakland. 



Snoopy said:
sundin13 said:

Citation needed x10

For which part exactly?

All of it:

-Best way to stop shootings is to increase quality of life
-Quality of life would increase with less federal government intervention
-Shootings occur due to restrictive gun control
-Shootings occur due to low standard of living
-Most mass shootings occur in democratic communities



sundin13 said:
Snoopy said:

For which part exactly?

All of it:

-Best way to stop shootings is to increase quality of life
-Quality of life would increase with less federal government intervention
-Shootings occur due to restrictive gun control
-Shootings occur due to low standard of living
-Most mass shootings occur in democratic communities

Part 1.

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2019-07-30-the-most-violent-cities-in-america-are-all-run-by-democrats/

Also, we know by now Democrats are for restrictive gun control and tried to ban it in Chicago lol.



Snoopy said:
sundin13 said:

All of it:

-Best way to stop shootings is to increase quality of life
-Quality of life would increase with less federal government intervention
-Shootings occur due to restrictive gun control
-Shootings occur due to low standard of living
-Most mass shootings occur in democratic communities

Part 1.

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2019-07-30-the-most-violent-cities-in-america-are-all-run-by-democrats/

Also, we know by now Democrats are for restrictive gun control and tried to ban it in Chicago lol.

These statistics are not referring to mass shootings.

However, the prime issue with this argument is it does nothing to address causal factors.

So part one is a bit of a misdirect and you still have four more parts to go.



Snoopy said:

The best way to stop shootings is to increase the quality of life here in the United States. It would be very easy if the Federal government-backed off and we stop electing Democrats. Most of these shootings are happening in Democrat counties due to restrictive gun control and their low standard of living.

And what exactly are democrats doing to increase shootings in these areas that republicans would counteract? And how have you determined that this is a causation and not simply a correlation?



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