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Baalzamon said:
tsogud said:

It's not like I straight up asked, it wasn't even on my radar. We were friends and talked about random shit while working, as friends do, and one of our convos somehow ended up talking about money and one thing led to another and I found out that way.

Just to be clear, I'm not indicating this job/wage thing is nothing...but same job description does NOT always equal same pay.

Performance/effort can absolutely result in differences in raises, etc. Unfortunately, whether or not you were "one of the best" can't really even be added to this argument, because everybody seems to think they are amazing at their jobs. So your response will obviously be along the lines of "I was as good or better at my job then the white guys".

I was literally teaching the other guys how to do their job. I'm not an idiot, I realize the bolded, I don't need the obvious stated. We literally had the same job title and everything. I wasn't one of the best but I was frequently getting praise from my superiors, which made sense because I had a lot of experience and knew what was expected of me. So I was understandably frustrated when I found out.

The "job/wage thing" is extremely significant and to just downplay that is really irresponsible of you and tells a lot. Your comment really wasn't needed.

Last edited by tsogud - on 18 August 2019

 

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KLAMarine said:
tsogud said:

It's not like I straight up asked, it wasn't even on my radar. We were friends and talked about random shit while working, as friends do, and one of our convos somehow ended up talking about money and one thing led to another and I found out that way.

Did you try asking upper management why you were paid less?

Yeah, I did. It got pretty ugly due to management being quite shit, I'm not gonna go into detail of what happened because frankly I don't want to but I did end up quitting.



 

Democrats did create the KKK and had openly racist presidents like Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Lyndon B Johnson. Not to say there aren't racists in the Republican party or any party for that matter.

One thing is for sure, Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty. It is a disgrace.



Snoopy said:
Democrats did create the KKK and had openly racist presidents like Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Lyndon B Johnson. Not to say there aren't racists in the Republican party or any party for that matter.

One thing is for sure, Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty. It is a disgrace.

Actually that's not for sure. The whole political establishment save for a few people have hurt people of color and poor whites due to special interests. To say it's just Democrats is grossly disingenuous and far removed from reality. Democrats have a lot of issues sure but in my view they are the lesser of two evils and are actively trying solutions to the problems people face.



 

tsogud said:
Snoopy said:
Democrats did create the KKK and had openly racist presidents like Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Lyndon B Johnson. Not to say there aren't racists in the Republican party or any party for that matter.

One thing is for sure, Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty. It is a disgrace.

Actually that's not for sure. The whole political establishment save for a few people have hurt people of color and poor whites due to special interests. To say it's just Democrats is grossly disingenuous and far removed from reality. Democrats have a lot of issues sure but in my view they are the lesser of two evils and are actively trying solutions to the problems people face.

Their solution is to increase gun violence, poverty, and broken families so they become more reliant on the government and give them more votes. Or as Lyndon B Johnson put it "I'll have those (n word) voting Democrat for the next 200 years".



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Snoopy said:
Democrats did create the KKK and had openly racist presidents like Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Lyndon B Johnson. Not to say there aren't racists in the Republican party or any party for that matter.

One thing is for sure, Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty. It is a disgrace.

Actual footage of democratic cities:

Such damage. Many ouch.



the-pi-guy said:
Snoopy said:
Democrats did create the KKK and had openly racist presidents like Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Lyndon B Johnson. Not to say there aren't racists in the Republican party or any party for that matter.

One thing is for sure, Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty. It is a disgrace.

>Democrats did create the KKK

In the same way that Republicans started abortion.  

>Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty

These are complicated issues, and simply putting the blame on Democrats is exaggerative.  

Snoopy said:

Their solution is to increase gun violence, poverty, and broken families so they become more reliant on the government and give them more votes. Or as Lyndon B Johnson put it "I'll have those (n word) voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

> Or as Lyndon B Johnson put it "I'll have those (n word) voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

Nothing like using a made up quote to try proving a point.  

Yes, Democrats are racist, but at least they talk about trying solutions.

> Complicated issues

Democrats receive all the stats on why their cities are getting worse in terms of crime rate, yet they still make things worse on purpose so the citizens will have to rely on the government.

The quote was by a credible author and LBJ was a notorious racist and said arguably worse things.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/



Snoopy said:
the-pi-guy said:

>Democrats did create the KKK

In the same way that Republicans started abortion.  

>Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty

These are complicated issues, and simply putting the blame on Democrats is exaggerative.  

> Or as Lyndon B Johnson put it "I'll have those (n word) voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

Nothing like using a made up quote to try proving a point.  

Yes, Democrats are racist, but at least they talk about trying solutions.

> Complicated issues

Democrats receive all the stats on why their cities are getting worse in terms of crime rate, yet they still make things worse on purpose so the citizens will have to rely on the government.

The quote was by a credible author and LBJ was a notorious racist and said arguably worse things.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/

>Uses made up quote

>Gives source to prove quote is real

>Source says the quote's unproven based on very little evidence

Lmao



 

Snoopy said:
the-pi-guy said:

>Democrats did create the KKK

In the same way that Republicans started abortion.  

>Democrat cities have hurt black people a lot more than the KKK recently. So many gun-related deaths, destroyed families, and blacks living in poverty

These are complicated issues, and simply putting the blame on Democrats is exaggerative.  

> Or as Lyndon B Johnson put it "I'll have those (n word) voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

Nothing like using a made up quote to try proving a point.  

Yes, Democrats are racist, but at least they talk about trying solutions.

> Complicated issues

Democrats receive all the stats on why their cities are getting worse in terms of crime rate, yet they still make things worse on purpose so the citizens will have to rely on the government.

The quote was by a credible author and LBJ was a notorious racist and said arguably worse things.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/

What policies in particular are the democrats using to make the crime rate worse and keep minorities reliant on the government?



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Snoopy said:
tsogud said:

Actually that's not for sure. The whole political establishment save for a few people have hurt people of color and poor whites due to special interests. To say it's just Democrats is grossly disingenuous and far removed from reality. Democrats have a lot of issues sure but in my view they are the lesser of two evils and are actively trying solutions to the problems people face.

Their solution is to increase gun violence, poverty, and broken families so they become more reliant on the government and give them more votes. Or as Lyndon B Johnson put it "I'll have those (n word) voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

Yes, I have heard this talking points from Republicans a lot but what you do not hear is any solution from them.  Not only do you not hear any solutions but you get the same BS over again while they ignore the community totally.  What are the programs instituted by Republicans to help people in Poverty move up from those conditions.  Is there better schooling, family assistance, help with creating businesses you name it.  There is nothing from the Republican side beside playing the blame game and the only thing you are doing is sprouting the same garbage believing the problem is Dems or GOP.  Its way more complex then that.  Maybe if we can get more diversity in the Republican party we may see something happen but I am sure Republicans love to continue voting for the same old white dudes they have for years.