| jason1637 said: I've been reading the Andre Yang platform and listening to his interviews. I think he is the best choice for 2020 to save this country. https://www.yang2020.com/policies/ #YangGang2020; |
I do like his stance on karate fighters, which I hope becomes a more important topic as the campaigns amp up.
- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."
EricHiggin said:
I'm saying if you didn't think about the fact that the wind was blowing, and in what direction, pissing into the wind would get you covered in urine. Who wouldn't take the wind and it's direction into account? Who's mindlessly ok with drenching themselves in piss? Just looking at Trumps turnover rate vs other Presidents doesn't take anything else into account, and to assume Trump is mindlessly hiring and firing people just to pass the time would be foolish. Based on your apples to apples argument, all people would have to argue climate change is a difference in temperature, that's it. No CO2 levels, no ocean levels, just temperature. Who's going to agree climate change is definitely a problem if you can't use causes to back it up? Who's going to be able to agree why Trump is firing so many people if all we can look at is the turnover rate and that's it? The same if not a somewhat lesser percentage than previous administrations due to the extra complexity that exists today. |
I think it would help everyone if you'd stop muddying the waters with endless half-baked metaphors and just dealt with the facts at hand. Pissing into the wind, climate change, travelling to Mars - you're all over the place...
I do think that there are different factors at play in Trump's case and I think that he's responsible for almost all of them.
Saying dumb, contradictory shit every other sentence, being the most divisive President in living memory, deliberately picking fights with... everyone... I can only imagine what working for that nut-case would be like - don't think I'd last long tbh. You really don't need to be Columbo to deduce why there's a revolving door - you just refuse to see it.
Twitter and the media weren't invented the day Trump came into office you know!
Biggerboat1 said:
I'm a little confused, isn't Andrew Yang running on, amongst other things, universal basic income? And, if I remember correctly, your stance was that people shouldn't rely on handouts, but instead should 'get better jobs' and 'try harder'...? Isn't there a bit of inconsistency there? |
Yeah I don't think people should rely on government handouts but also dont trust the government to put tax payer money to good use. The government giving the people the money they get from taxes instead of using it on dumb programs is not a terrible idea. An even with giving peopke 1k a month they are still below the poverty line so you will still need to get a job anyway.
Immersiveunreality said:
No i do not think that is the condition you could attach to Trump. The man has skills but poorly political and diplomatic skills,i do think his problem is that he thinks he can use his businessman experience in the White house and that it would translate in being a good president. |
Here is the definition of Dunning-Kruger Effect
The Dunning-Kruger effect refers to the finding that people who are relatively unskilled or unknowledgeable in a particular subject sometimes have the tendency to overestimate their knowledge and abilities.
It matches Trump perfectly. Here is a video showing how many times he has stated he knows a subject better than anyone else when of course he is clueless.
Lately its been getting worse just listening to him talk about any subject. I am not sure what skills Trump has but if its not self promoting himself, nothing looks good so far.
EricHiggin said:
I just asked a question like you did. I eat waffles for breakfast. So your saying it's not possible for a person to have higher standards than the available people they're able to hire in a given amount of time? Then why are we bothering to try and get to Mars? Might as well just lower our standards to the moon because we know we can achieve that apparently. What kind of idiot would even dare strive for Mars... Are they idiots? The irony of the DK effect, is that those who point out others who suffer from it, may very well have it backwards, and not know it. Your right, this is fun. |
What I am saying is that your defense of a dumb hyperbolic statement is just that waffling. You have no clue what Trump's standards are and neither do I. So trying to paint that he has some high standards is garbage. So why don't you give examples of exactly the high standards you can prove Trump has for being President. I await your reply.
At Bolded: Lol, why don't you school me on the DK effect. This should be interesting.
Biggerboat1 said:
I think it would help everyone if you'd stop muddying the waters with endless half-baked metaphors and just dealt with the facts at hand. Pissing into the wind, climate change, travelling to Mars - you're all over the place... I do think that there are different factors at play in Trump's case and I think that he's responsible for almost all of them. Saying dumb, contradictory shit every other sentence, being the most divisive President in living memory, deliberately picking fights with... everyone... I can only imagine what working for that nut-case would be like - don't think I'd last long tbh. You really don't need to be Columbo to deduce why there's a revolving door - you just refuse to see it. Twitter and the media weren't invented the day Trump came into office you know! |
Well being more direct got me nowhere when it was insisted that only Trumps numbers vs prior Presidents was the only factor that needed to be taken in account. Instead of taking the same approach and beating a dead horse, I tried a different approach and it worked, since we've moved past it now, so I'd have to say it did help.
Based on what I've seen or heard about Trump, I've worked for way worse people. It wasn't the best case scenario and some of my bosses were real a holes and one in particular was an absolute moron and only had the job because of a close family connection, and yet I never quit. Now there were a few guys who did quit over the years for that very reason, but it wasn't a surprise and was as much of a relief as getting a new boss would have been because they whined about everything, all the time.
Social media has been around for 10-15 years, the msm has been around for 100 or so but much more prominent and wide reaching over the last 50 or so years, and newspapers have been around for hundreds of years. The wider the reach of any type of media, the more freedom for the people, but more problems that can also arise.
Machiavellian said:
What I am saying is that your defense of a dumb hyperbolic statement is just that waffling. You have no clue what Trump's standards are and neither do I. So trying to paint that he has some high standards is garbage. So why don't you give examples of exactly the high standards you can prove Trump has for being President. I await your reply. At Bolded: Lol, why don't you school me on the DK effect. This should be interesting. |
When you take political leaders to your home instead of the WH to impress them. Definitely a low standards minimalist.
You just pointed out you've done a bunch of reading on it, enough to make an observation that Trump fits the profile of the psychological issue itself, and now you want me to explain it to you?
EricHiggin said:
Well being more direct got me nowhere when it was insisted that only Trumps numbers vs prior Presidents was the only factor that needed to be taken in account. Instead of taking the same approach and beating a dead horse, I tried a different approach and it worked, since we've moved past it now, so I'd have to say it did help. Based on what I've seen or heard about Trump, I've worked for way worse people. It wasn't the best case scenario and some of my bosses were real a holes and one in particular was an absolute moron and only had the job because of a close family connection, and yet I never quit. Now there were a few guys who did quit over the years for that very reason, but it wasn't a surprise and was as much of a relief as getting a new boss would have been because they whined about everything, all the time. Social media has been around for 10-15 years, the msm has been around for 100 or so but much more prominent and wide reaching over the last 50 or so years, and newspapers have been around for hundreds of years. The wider the reach of any type of media, the more freedom for the people, but more problems that can also arise.
When you take political leaders to your home instead of the WH to impress them. Definitely a low standards minimalist. You just pointed out you've done a bunch of reading on it, enough to make an observation that Trump fits the profile of the psychological issue itself, and now you want me to explain it to you? |
Damn thats a really nice living room. It's pretty obvious that Trump was trying to flex on Shinzo Abe.
jason1637 said:
Damn thats a really nice living room. It's pretty obvious that Trump was trying to flex on Shinzo Abe. |
Flexin on lil Mac too.
EricHiggin said:
When you take political leaders to your home instead of the WH to impress them. Definitely a low standards minimalist. You just pointed out you've done a bunch of reading on it, enough to make an observation that Trump fits the profile of the psychological issue itself, and now you want me to explain it to you? |
So is that picture suppose to represent Trump high standards for hiring staff. Lol, you make this to easy. Its like playing with a child in their early troll stage. Once challenge they run out of ideals and resort to nonsense.
So you are saying you have no clue about the DK effect. Just as I thought, all mouth no action. When tasked to prove your words you come up short, thanks for playing. Try better to troll next time.
pm sent -the-pi-guy
Last edited by the-pi-guy - on 16 April 2019
Machiavellian said:
So is that picture suppose to represent Trump high standards for hiring staff. Lol, you make this to easy. Its like playing with a child in their early troll stage. Once challenge they run out of ideals and resort to nonsense. So you are saying you have no clue about the DK effect. Just as I thought, all mouth no action. When tasked to prove your words you come up short, thanks for playing. Try better to troll next time. |
Sorry to interfere but is it that important?It is a bundle of personal treats and it is not a condition but its just a form of denial mostly formed by ego and upbringing.(And you could say that to some degree most people have it)
It is interesting to talk about mental health and personality treats but it might be just more fruitfull to talk about real political topics in here instead of lingering on hypothesises given a name and that is already difficult to argue about with people in the same political field.
I kinda lean to your side of believing that he has a good chance to have those different personal treats although the "effect" name should have no weight at all and i do not agree with making those kind of collectives but thats just me and that is also offtopic. :p
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