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President Trump Signs Executive Order Protecting Free Speech On College Campuses | TIME

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Hiro94 said:
As a junior at a University this is a huge relief. Leftist students run the show around here and they hate it now that they are getting push back. While I am already protected by the first amendment as a conservative independent student, This gives me extra padding to share my views without fear.

See, the right wing has snowflakes who need safe spaces too!



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Awesome, can't wait to have atheist and lgbtq speakers at religious colleges. Maybe even a few BLM members and socialist, after all it's about free speech right



Hiro94 said:
As a junior at a University this is a huge relief. Leftist students run the show around here and they hate it now that they are getting push back. While I am already protected by the first amendment as a conservative independent student, This gives me extra padding to share my views without fear.

What the hell are you in fear of? You people act like you're being hunted down in the street. Just because no one wants to hear you talk doesn't mean you're under attack. people aren't obligated to tolerate, listen to or even respect your beliefs. 



Government punishing schools based on their speech environment sounds like it may clash with the idea of the first amendment, which is supposed to protect speech from retaliation from the government.

Hiro94 said:
As a junior at a University this is a huge relief. Leftist students run the show around here and they hate it now that they are getting push back. While I am already protected by the first amendment as a conservative independent student, This gives me extra padding to share my views without fear.

Can you share some examples of things you want to say, but felt you couldn't before?

Every time I see this come up, it always seems to be about people wanting to say things that are hurtful to fringe groups, but maybe there's something else that I'm missing?

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collint0101 said:

Awesome, can't wait to have atheist and lgbtq speakers at religious colleges. Maybe even a few BLM members and socialist, after all it's about free speech right

Key takeaway from video: public universities and those receiving federal grants.  If certain religious colleges fall under that umbrella then they will have to make a decision.  



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This is ... odd. Free speech is already protected at public universities and it's enforced by the courts, as it should be. Now there is going to be a duplicate law but how is it going to be enforced? The highly partisan legislative/executive branch is going to watch over it? How? By what rules? That doesn't sound good. Who wants MORE government overhead, especially when it's arbitrary.

Hopefully this is just as symbolic and meaningless as it actually sounds.

On a side note, can you imagine how conservative pundits would rage about this as the executive branch trying to extend its reach into Constitutional matters as "Big Government"?



So, I take it colleges will also be punished for denying people the opportunity to speak out about how the Earth is flat, or the superiority of the Aryan race?



Hiku said:

Government punishing schools based on their speech environment sounds like it may clash with the idea of the first amendment, which is supposed to protect speech from retaliation from the government.

Hiro94 said:
As a junior at a University this is a huge relief. Leftist students run the show around here and they hate it now that they are getting push back. While I am already protected by the first amendment as a conservative independent student, This gives me extra padding to share my views without fear.

Can you share some examples of things you want to say, but felt you couldn't before?

Every time I see this come up, it always seems to be about people wanting to say things that are hurtful to fringe groups, but maybe there's something else that I'm missing?

How about when ben shapiro went to give a speech at Berkeley and there where riots and he got shut down. Riots by the liberals, the suposed "anti nazi anti hate group progressives".  

University said no at first cuz of the danger and their security could not handle it. He then had to pay for separate security then the university made some other excuse and still got denied.

What this executive order is aiming for is for people like ben shapiro to speak freely and if people plan on rioting or anything of the sort, the university must put its effort in diffusing the violence and preventing it from happening, not preventing the speaker from coming. 



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OlfinBedwere said:

So, I take it colleges will also be punished for denying people the opportunity to speak out about how the Earth is flat, or the superiority of the Aryan race?

exactly. when they talk we then have the option to agree, disagree or just laugh at the stupidity. 

Or are you afraid a flat earther is going to change your mind? 



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Eh, just let people be who they are I guess. Hateful or not. But if there's an increase of violence on campuses we'll know why.