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I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.

Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam.



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Megaton. Very succesful launch for the store. And the fact they're bringing in new players not on steam is very positive too.



Marth said:
Not suprising considering that you need that thing to play Fortnite on PC.
So most of that are kids that are younger than Steam itself.

This new generation will be all grown up in 10 years. It's very important to Epic they make their store the go to place for them. 



The_Liquid_Laser said:
I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.

Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam.

Why dont you think PC gaming is as big as console gaming in North America?



BasilZero said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.

Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam.

 

You should actually take advantage of all the stores on PC. No need to do a "boycott" simply cause you dont like a certain company. There's bundles, free giveaways, and sales that feature on pretty much every store (minus Bethesda).

I don't dislike Valve.  I dislike Steam.  Why should I use a service that I dislike?

jason1637 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.

Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam.

Why dont you think PC gaming is as big as console gaming in North America?

A couple reasons.

1) Before Steam came along we had numbers for both PC and Console sales.  PC games never sold like console games did.  The big money was always in console gaming.  This was also in an era when PC gaming had more exclusives (and better exclusives IMO) than it does now.

2) Valve never gives us all of their data.  This in itself is telling.  The XB1 is not selling well and Microsoft doesn't give us data about the XB1.  I suspect Valve is the same way.  If the data was actually good, then the company would give it to us regularly.



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BasilZero said:
60% crazy grandmas and hyperactive grandpas.

60% of Fornite kids and basic newcomers who don't really care to open their eyes to everything and anything around them. 



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.

Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam.

Wat?.


Valve's numbers are on the mark though, especially with daily active users and total users. They aren't some small company in the PC space. There are more PC gamers out there than there are console gamers. 

You not using Steam kinda tells me how much you know about the storefront though. Not sure why you'd consider anti-consumer practices, less features and DRM over non DRM like GoG. 



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

The_Liquid_Laser said:
BasilZero said:

 

You should actually take advantage of all the stores on PC. No need to do a "boycott" simply cause you dont like a certain company. There's bundles, free giveaways, and sales that feature on pretty much every store (minus Bethesda).

I don't dislike Valve.  I dislike Steam.  Why should I use a service that I dislike?

jason1637 said:

Why dont you think PC gaming is as big as console gaming in North America?

A couple reasons.

1) Before Steam came along we had numbers for both PC and Console sales.  PC games never sold like console games did.  The big money was always in console gaming.  This was also in an era when PC gaming had more exclusives (and better exclusives IMO) than it does now.

2) Valve never gives us all of their data.  This in itself is telling.  The XB1 is not selling well and Microsoft doesn't give us data about the XB1.  I suspect Valve is the same way.  If the data was actually good, then the company would give it to us regularly.

Yeah I don't get it, we had Wow that had + 10 million subscribers, we had CS go that did + 25 million and plenty more if you have 25 million active users in North America it certainly seems big.






Chazore said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.

Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam.

Wat?.


Valve's numbers are on the mark though, especially with daily active users and total users. They aren't some small company in the PC space. There are more PC gamers out there than there are console gamers. 

You not using Steam kinda tells me how much you know about the storefront though. Not sure why you'd consider anti-consumer practices, less features and DRM over non DRM like GoG. 

Do you have sales numbers for last year for the top 20 Steam games in North America?

konnichiwa said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I don't dislike Valve.  I dislike Steam.  Why should I use a service that I dislike?

A couple reasons.

1) Before Steam came along we had numbers for both PC and Console sales.  PC games never sold like console games did.  The big money was always in console gaming.  This was also in an era when PC gaming had more exclusives (and better exclusives IMO) than it does now.

2) Valve never gives us all of their data.  This in itself is telling.  The XB1 is not selling well and Microsoft doesn't give us data about the XB1.  I suspect Valve is the same way.  If the data was actually good, then the company would give it to us regularly.

Yeah I don't get it, we had Wow that had + 10 million subscribers, we had CS go that did + 25 million and plenty more if you have 25 million active users in North America it certainly seems big.

You missed my previous post.  I was talking about North America.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
Chazore said:

Wat?.


Valve's numbers are on the mark though, especially with daily active users and total users. They aren't some small company in the PC space. There are more PC gamers out there than there are console gamers. 

You not using Steam kinda tells me how much you know about the storefront though. Not sure why you'd consider anti-consumer practices, less features and DRM over non DRM like GoG. 

Do you have sales numbers for last year for the top 20 Steam games in North America?

konnichiwa said:

Yeah I don't get it, we had Wow that had + 10 million subscribers, we had CS go that did + 25 million and plenty more if you have 25 million active users in North America it certainly seems big.

You missed my previous post.  I was talking about North America.

Why don't you go find those numbers, that aren't even related to user numbers yourself?. Or better yet, use Steam spy, from the guy who's too shallow enough to use it on the very company he works for. 

 

Also "better exclusives", again is subjective in your own mind. That and PC gaming is definitely big, it's not small. 

Last edited by Chazore - on 22 March 2019

Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"