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I'm rarely hyped for a game, but seeing original Fallout creators making RPG that is supposed to have freedom of choice that FO1/2 had got me really excited...until this happened.
I can't blame Obsidian for this, this is Take-Two's doing, but although I have EGS installed (due to my kids playing Fortine), I just don't trust or like EPIC enough to actually buy anything from there.
I'm still excited about the game, I'll just have to wait for it to come to Steam (or finally decide to upgrade to Win10 and go to MS store).



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vivster said:
I hate artificial exclusivity of games but I hate Valve even more, so GO EPIC!

Why?



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Darc Requiem said:
I was looking forward to The Outer Worlds. I'm not buying anything on the Epic Store. No offline and no refund policy equal no buy from me. Plus I don't exactly trust them with my data. Ah well, maybe I'll snag it down the line.

But it does have an offline mode, and has the exact same refund policy as steam. 



Darwinianevolution said:
vivster said:
I hate artificial exclusivity of games but I hate Valve even more, so GO EPIC!

Why?

I don't like their attitude. They have vasts amount of money and do nothing with it. They only do the bare minimum of what they could do and then they will only do it if people start complaining about it. It's greedy assholery at its finest. So I will cheer for any serious competitor that can take them down a notch from their monopoly complacency.



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Another game to skip. It's not like there aren't tons of other games to play. This actually makes it easier to prioritize my backlog.



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To be fair, this is largely a situation that Valve has created themselves. Right now the deal that Epic offers to developers is just better than the one Valve has in place, so even if this makes things more difficult to customers it makes sense from a commercial stand point. Selling games on the Epic Store just gives the developer a larger cut of the profits, so of course many are going to take the deal.



Sure, let's ignore the rest of what Joe was saying, about Epic being greedy themselves, or making their (in Joe's words) platform BETTER!. I find it incredibly asinine how this little childish tirade, is putting focus on one storefront, and not anyone else, not the greedy as fuck company that's got a Chinese one (two members on their board btw), not the company that's been voted worst 3 times in a row, not the company that's been citing PC gamers as pirates for years and shoves on 4 layers of DRM, or the company that's known for years to release buggy games.

We're also forgetting the consoles 30% cut, which we shouldn't be excusing, because if we're going to excuse Epic, EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, GoG, MS, Sony and Nintendo, then we're going to excuse Valve, because it becomes a moot point when you're vying for "change" but you only want one party to change, and the rest to stay complacent.

Joe even said he doesn't like the idea of a console style war on PC. Hardly anyone wants a console style war on PC, it brings bad, and anti-consumer practices with it. WHen you're trying to sell a plastic $500 box, then yeah that's what you do, but not on an open platform, where you're literally promising customers one thing, then taking it away from them the next, and saying it's "healthy" to do that each and every time, telling them "suck it and buy it from my place you scrub", because you know that shit doesn't fly properly in other industries, not without pissing others off and alienating them. The devs that have already taken Epic's cash have willingly decided to alienate me and they clearly don't give two shits, so give me an objective, non biased, non up your own arse example, of why I should bend over backwards to support them, when they won't support me?.

No one wants console wars on PC, those that do would rather see the platform fucked over for their own petty gains. I don't want my consumer rights and general choices being fucked over, because a few goits think it's "better" for me. I'd rather deck them to the curb to have them tell me how to buy my games. You don't tell me how to buy my games, and you don't tell me where to buy them from.

I hope Valve do what they do and continue working on their VR games, while releasing their storefront revamp, and don't give into Epic's petty shit. Last thing we need is Valve buying up games exclusively, like some shitty, anti-consumer console war.



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Darwinianevolution said:
This kind of exclusivity wars is only going to make piracy look better, those signing for exclusivity should know better.

It's already becoming a new issue, funnily enough, spawned by EPic themselves, because before this happened, people were buying their games like normal.

 

Piracy is a service issue, and Gaben said it best. Pity OP ignores that fact. 



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Darashiva said:
To be fair, this is largely a situation that Valve has created themselves. Right now the deal that Epic offers to developers is just better than the one Valve has in place, so even if this makes things more difficult to customers it makes sense from a commercial stand point. Selling games on the Epic Store just gives the developer a larger cut of the profits, so of course many are going to take the deal.

Discord has the superior cut though, and yet no one who talks pro epic and anti valve cite this. Also, no one is giving GoG props for having to lose a fair price pro consumer policy, you know, thanks to Epic. 



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vivster said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Why?

I don't like their attitude. They have vasts amount of money and do nothing with it. They only do the bare minimum of what they could do and then they will only do it if people start complaining about it. It's greedy assholery at its finest. So I will cheer for any serious competitor that can take them down a notch from their monopoly complacency.

But you cannot punish one anticonsumer behaviour by supporting another, that's just changing problems instead of solving them.



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