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spemanig said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
I hope it flops and fails as badly as OnLive. Purely personal and selfish reasons really, mainly because I do not like Google from a business stand point and data sharing stand point. I also look at it like these are the same people that are trying to sell us this streaming concept with Stadia when they cant even make Youtube properly send notifications to our subscribers boxes properly.

"Can't even?"

I get that it's popular to poopoo on Youtube right now, I like to do it too sometimes, but you're grossly underselling how massive an achievement it is that a platform with as much content constantly being uploaded as Youtube, with as many users and creators, with as many things that could go wrong, has such a good handle on keeping the house from burning down that the biggest problem someone can complain about is some people not getting notifications sometimes. You make it sound like Youtube is run by inept imbeciles, and not literal mega-geniuses who have no right no have such a massive platform run as smoothly as it consistently does. 300 hours of footage is uploaded every minute dude. 300 hours a minute. Give them room to breath.

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ThatDreamcastTho said:
1) The experience will be inferior compared to offline gaming.

2) One benefit I can see from Stadia is if you haven't played a game before, you are checking out a walkthrough on YouTube, and you want to play it yourself for a couple minutes to decide if you want to buy the game to play offline. After that, I would purchase the game on a traditional console if I liked it.

3) Gaming shouldn't require an internet connection to check if you have the rights to play it. Ever.

I want to comment on point 2 - I don't think these streamed games are going to be free. In fact, I suspect they're going to cost just as much as everywhere else. I don't see any reason why say, Madden costs $60 on Playstation and Xbox online stores, and in Gamestop and in wal-mart etc.... and is suddenly going to be free on Stadia. Perhaps there will some kind of monthly subscription service like EA Access, but it definitely, definitely, wont be free.



KLXVER said:
FarleyMcFirefly said:
The day this takes off and becomes mainstream is the day I stop modern gaming. Hopefully Nintendo releases physical games for a long time yet.

Could you imagine if both Sony and MS followed Google and Nintendo was the only one releasing physical games? They would need to buy another building to hold the money. It would be massive for at least some years.

I could definitely see Nintendo being the lone holdouts of sticking to physical media/owning software in the long run. And they'll be rewarded for it. Game Pass shows that MS is also already starting to lean in the direction of streaming. Sony has PS Now, and I have a feeling will also lean more in that direction going forward.

I defintely see this Google model of streaming everything on multiple devices taking off and doing well, but at the end of the day, there will always be a significant % of gamers who wish to actually own and have control over the product that they shell out money for. 

It's for this reason I think there is room for both models. It's like, even though Netflix and Hulu are thriving, Blu Rays still sell, and will continue to sell.



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Mar1217 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Digital makes up 15-20% of their packaged software sales.  25% of overall total software sales are digital.  For 3rd parties, even it's larger as they now sell more digitally than physically on Switch (largely because of the huge indie selection) but even some packaged goods are now selling more than 50% digitally for them.

At least according to their previous investor relations information.

1) Well, that's because of indies sure, but I'm talking primarly about 1st party/2nd party software sales.

2) Do you have documents to access the claims ?

You can sift through their Investor Relations data or check the links below.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63689/switch-rallies-digital-sales-nintendos-1h18/index.html

https://www.theouterhaven.net/2018/05/nintendo-expects-digital-sales-to-keep-growing-on-nintendo-switch/

https://www.dualshockers.com/3rd-party-digital-sales-nintendo-switch-exceed-physical-goods-first-time-united-states/



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potato_hamster said:
ThatDreamcastTho said:
1) The experience will be inferior compared to offline gaming.

2) One benefit I can see from Stadia is if you haven't played a game before, you are checking out a walkthrough on YouTube, and you want to play it yourself for a couple minutes to decide if you want to buy the game to play offline. After that, I would purchase the game on a traditional console if I liked it.

3) Gaming shouldn't require an internet connection to check if you have the rights to play it. Ever.

I want to comment on point 2 - I don't think these streamed games are going to be free. In fact, I suspect they're going to cost just as much as everywhere else. I don't see any reason why say, Madden costs $60 on Playstation and Xbox online stores, and in Gamestop and in wal-mart etc.... and is suddenly going to be free on Stadia. Perhaps there will some kind of monthly subscription service like EA Access, but it definitely, definitely, wont be free.

It could still have utility as a 99 cent rental or something. No way would I play the entire game like that.



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KLXVER said:
spemanig said:

The only thing that sucks is that when this thing takes off and changes gaming forever, it really is the beginning of the end for games preservation. That's really all I care about. Basically every Stadia exclusive will be lost to time in a few hundred years. That sucks.

How are you so certain this will be the future? 

People used to think flying cars would be the future, but we all know what a nightmare that would have been.

Yeah instead it's flying drones



SpokenTruth said:
Mar1217 said:

1) Well, that's because of indies sure, but I'm talking primarly about 1st party/2nd party software sales.

2) Do you have documents to access the claims ?

You can sift through their Investor Relations data or check the links below.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63689/switch-rallies-digital-sales-nintendos-1h18/index.html

https://www.theouterhaven.net/2018/05/nintendo-expects-digital-sales-to-keep-growing-on-nintendo-switch/

https://www.dualshockers.com/3rd-party-digital-sales-nintendo-switch-exceed-physical-goods-first-time-united-states/

 

Thanks for the share !

Indeed there's a rise of people buying digital goods over physical when it comes to 3rd party games but it seems like most is due to the incredible performance of indie titles. 



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Mar1217 said:
SpokenTruth said:

You can sift through their Investor Relations data or check the links below.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63689/switch-rallies-digital-sales-nintendos-1h18/index.html

https://www.theouterhaven.net/2018/05/nintendo-expects-digital-sales-to-keep-growing-on-nintendo-switch/

https://www.dualshockers.com/3rd-party-digital-sales-nintendo-switch-exceed-physical-goods-first-time-united-states/

 

Thanks for the share !

Indeed there's a rise of people buying digital goods over physical when it comes to 3rd party games but it seems like most is due to the incredible performance of indie titles. 

Agreed and I noted that but as Nintendo stated, many packaged goods are even hitting 50%+ digitally. 



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SpokenTruth said:
Mar1217 said:

Thanks for the share !

Indeed there's a rise of people buying digital goods over physical when it comes to 3rd party games but it seems like most is due to the incredible performance of indie titles. 

Agreed and I noted that but as Nintendo stated, many packaged goods are even hitting 50%+ digitally. 

It'd be fun to know which one at least :/ Cuz otherwise I'm left to guess that they might mean indie games that also got a physical release later on (Sonic Mania, Golf Story, etc ...).

A game like Mario + Rabbids wouldn't surprise me since they had tons of crazy deals with this one !



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Mar1217 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Agreed and I noted that but as Nintendo stated, many packaged goods are even hitting 50%+ digitally. 

It'd be fun to know which one at least :/ Cuz otherwise I'm left to guess that they might mean indie games that also got a physical release later on (Sonic Mania, Golf Story, etc ...).

A game like Mario + Rabbids wouldn't surprise me since they had tons of crazy deals with this one !

It would be nice to have a list but the way they worded the stat suggests it is standard packaged games, not those that received a package release after the fact.



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