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What's your internet speed?

Less than 10mbps 15 11.19%
 
10-50 mbps 38 28.36%
 
50-100 mbps 35 26.12%
 
100-300 mbps 35 26.12%
 
300-900 mbps 7 5.22%
 
900+ mbps 4 2.99%
 
Total:134
RaptorChrist on 21 March 2019
ThatDreamcastTho said:
RaptorChrist said:

Pretty much my thoughts. But what I am wondering about is whether or not it actually is too early. While watching the conference, I was extremely impressed with the offerings they had. I didn't think we were at the point yet where a company could be capable of the power needed to run a game at 4K@60 while also streaming it's output; that came as such a surprise to me and was the turning point in where I changed my opinion from negative to positive towards Stadia.

Having a cloud-based infrastructure allows Google to rapidly build up a collection of these Stadia drives and serve a large number of people (as they only need as many as their are concurrent users). I live in the US, and internet speeds here (and probably everywhere I would guess) increase at a relatively quick pace. I have a 250 Mbps connection today. Last year I was at 75 Mbps. A year before that it was like 40 Mbps. I live near Chicago, so maybe that's why.

One thing I do disagree with is bashing Google for offering 4K. I'm not sure where that was derived. If that was just a flippant remark you made as a negative reaction to the product, then that's fine, but there are plenty of people with the capability of streaming in 4K. I guess you have to ask yourself if your opinion would have been different had it been a product from Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft.

In general, though, we are pretty much in agreement.

Chicago is also the first city to get 5G. Most people do not get those kind of speeds.

Interesting, I didn't know anything about that. What is the average speed then in the US? I'm reading on this page here:

https://www.speedtest.net/reports/united-states/2018/fixed/

And it looks as though the average speed in the US is close to 100 Mbps, but that seems much too high. It looks like in the last year, there was an average download speed increase of 38%. US ranks #7 for download speeds (much lower at 27th for uploads). It also says that something like 75% are capable of 4K video (as of Q3/Q4 2018).

I didn't think the average was that high, but at the same time I didn't think it was as low as 5 Mbps like I feel as though someone else had said at one point. Something that I considered was that perhaps these average speeds aren't conducted at a consumer level, and so they take into account places like McDonalds and Starbucks. If that were the case, it might bring the average speed down as you can find free internet in a lot of places but are restricted to very low speeds (like 5 Mbps).



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ArchangelMadzz on 21 March 2019

90 mb up
90 mb down

I don't pay for it specifically, it's included in my student accommodation in the UK.



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Intrinsic on 21 March 2019
RaptorChrist said:

Pretty much my thoughts. But what I am wondering about is whether or not it actually is too early. While watching the conference, I was extremely impressed with the offerings they had. I didn't think we were at the point yet where a company could be capable of the power needed to run a game at 4K@60 while also streaming it's output; that came as such a surprise to me and was the turning point in where I changed my opinion from negative to positive towards Stadia.

Having a cloud-based infrastructure allows Google to rapidly build up a collection of these Stadia drives and serve a large number of people (as they only need as many as their are concurrent users). I live in the US, and internet speeds here (and probably everywhere I would guess) increase at a relatively quick pace. I have a 250 Mbps connection today. Last year I was at 75 Mbps. A year before that it was like 40 Mbps. I live near Chicago, so maybe that's why.

One thing I do disagree with is bashing Google for offering 4K. I'm not sure where that was derived. If that was just a flippant remark you made as a negative reaction to the product, then that's fine, but there are plenty of people with the capability of streaming in 4K. I guess you have to ask yourself if your opinion would have been different had it been a product from Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft.

In general, though, we are pretty much in agreement.

I am not bashing them for offering 4k/60fps streams...... I just know better and know that for some strange ran a lot of these companies are allowed to get away with all kinds of shit these days. It really wouldn't matter wh wa offering game streaming.... as much of a sony fan as I am I have never really tried game streaming of any sort other than share play and that was me acting as the host. Streaming Is just not something I am interested in because I don't believe we are at the point were it can be as hassle free as just picking on my controller and gaming on my TV.

But let me point out what I mean.... all that talk about 10.7TF by google is just marketing nonsense. Why? Cause their model is server based and they can stack "instances". An instance ends up being what is available to the end user at any given time and not what is in a server blade. The end use an be using a 30TF instance foral we know. And then basing their analysis on two consoles that are pretty much on their way out the door? And the fat that when the PS5/XB2 is released and are pushing similar or more power i would ean that their 10.7TF is only really good for 30fps games all of a sudden. But the they will just stack an instance to meet up... which makes you wonder why they even said that begin with.

I was totally impressed with a lot of stuff they talked about...... but as for the atual service I just feel there is a lot of glossing over in there. And I know connection speeds will get better, in the country I am i from the ISP I use the the fastest connection s cently 160Mbs. Bt that osts around  $170/month. But the same company just increased all their plans by 50% for free at the start of this year. So yeah at some point we all will be in a position where a decent enough connection will be something we can have. 



ThatDreamcastTho on 21 March 2019
Azelover said:

I think for Google, the latency issues will be tackled with game design.

Some games, like JRPGs and old Adventure games, don't need a super fast response. Many games can be created around these issues.

Of course, it's not gonna be a great service from day one. But I believe it will get there eventually. Stadia is a very powerful platform, and I don't mean in just horsepower. I think it's gonna go very far.

I have played old adventure games and rpgs streaming and the experience is terrible. Blurry, laggy, and frustrating.



ThatDreamcastTho on 21 March 2019
RaptorChrist said:
ThatDreamcastTho said:

Chicago is also the first city to get 5G. Most people do not get those kind of speeds.

Interesting, I didn't know anything about that. What is the average speed then in the US? I'm reading on this page here:

https://www.speedtest.net/reports/united-states/2018/fixed/

And it looks as though the average speed in the US is close to 100 Mbps, but that seems much too high. It looks like in the last year, there was an average download speed increase of 38%. US ranks #7 for download speeds (much lower at 27th for uploads). It also says that something like 75% are capable of 4K video (as of Q3/Q4 2018).

I didn't think the average was that high, but at the same time I didn't think it was as low as 5 Mbps like I feel as though someone else had said at one point. Something that I considered was that perhaps these average speeds aren't conducted at a consumer level, and so they take into account places like McDonalds and Starbucks. If that were the case, it might bring the average speed down as you can find free internet in a lot of places but are restricted to very low speeds (like 5 Mbps).

The average is weighted because millions of people live in places like chicago, los angeles, san fransisco, etc. Most areas are nowhere near that.



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thismeintiel on 21 March 2019

I usually get 16Mbps-20Mbps download and 5Mbps-7Mbps upload.



 

Pemalite on 21 March 2019
Intrinsic said:

The whole compression thing wasn't my point but rather Kirby's point to counter mine of how we will need at least 50Mbs to maintain a steady 4k stream.

Well with next-gen video encoding/decoding, 50Mbps is probably far from being a requirement for a 4k stream...



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Intrinsic on 21 March 2019
Pemalite said:
Intrinsic said:

The whole compression thing wasn't my point but rather Kirby's point to counter mine of how we will need at least 50Mbs to maintain a steady 4k stream.

Well with next-gen video encoding/decoding, 50Mbps is probably far from being a requirement for a 4k stream...

As it stands we are getting 50Mbs 4k@60 streams because o that better encoding. But h, thing will always get better.. but then so will the requirements of which hardware supports it.

the-pi-guy said:
Intrinsic said:
Wha google and no one seems to be saying is how you will need an internet connection of around 50Mbs to be able to stream at 4k60fps.

Anything less than that and you will basically be playing at a lowerrez or lower fps.

Google said 4k60 would require 30 mbps.

"So with Project Stream [the beta test for Stadia], we recommended and set a threshold of about 25 megabits per second in order to enjoy 1080p / 60 frames per second," Harrison said. "In fact, we only used about 20 megabits per second. But we gave ourselves a little bit of a buffer in the calculations. When we launch, because we’ve made some very significant improvements to our encoder, our streamer, and our compression algorithms, we will get 4K / 60 frames per second in about 30 megabits per second. And then if you are at a lower resolution, you will obviously use significantly less bandwidth."

https://www.gamesradar.com/google-says-that-if-you-can-watch-youtube-you-can-play-stadia/

Yeah, that's not confusing at al....... so he basically is saying you will need 25Mbs for 1080p/60 and also that you will need just 5/10Mbs more for 4k/60? that is 4 times the data of 4k.......  don't know how to say all this; or maybe I am just stupid/or missing something obvious..... but if the exact same video encoding method used to get you 1080/60fps stream with 20Mbs is used for a 4k/60fps stream.... the same encoder..... shouldn't that require at least twice (its supposed to be 4 times the bandwidth but lets be very generous here) the bandwidth??

This is exactly why I am saying that its like google has cast a spell on everyone.

Alright, I am going to leave this alone. November is just right around the corner.

Last edited by Intrinsic - on 21 March 2019

kirby007 on 21 March 2019
Intrinsic said:
Pemalite said:

Well with next-gen video encoding/decoding, 50Mbps is probably far from being a requirement for a 4k stream...

As it stands we are getting 50Mbs 4k@60 streams because o that better encoding. But h, thing will always get better.. but then so will the requirements of which hardware supports it.

the-pi-guy said:

Google said 4k60 would require 30 mbps.

"So with Project Stream [the beta test for Stadia], we recommended and set a threshold of about 25 megabits per second in order to enjoy 1080p / 60 frames per second," Harrison said. "In fact, we only used about 20 megabits per second. But we gave ourselves a little bit of a buffer in the calculations. When we launch, because we’ve made some very significant improvements to our encoder, our streamer, and our compression algorithms, we will get 4K / 60 frames per second in about 30 megabits per second. And then if you are at a lower resolution, you will obviously use significantly less bandwidth."

https://www.gamesradar.com/google-says-that-if-you-can-watch-youtube-you-can-play-stadia/

Yeah, that's not confusing at al....... so he basically is saying you will need 25Mbs for 1080p/60 and also that you will need 25Mbs for 4k/60?

Alright, I am going to leave this alone. November is just right around the corner.

Currently they need 20mbps for 1080/60fps. After everything is said and done they expect 30mbps for 4k/60fps

EDIT : and ofcourse the hardware will matter but the fun fact is you wont need to drop 300/500 on a console since google is making the hardware investment



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Intrinsic on 21 March 2019
kirby007 said:
Intrinsic said:

As it stands we are getting 50Mbs 4k@60 streams because o that better encoding. But h, thing will always get better.. but then so will the requirements of which hardware supports it.

Yeah, that's not confusing at al....... so he basically is saying you will need 25Mbs for 1080p/60 and also that you will need 25Mbs for 4k/60?

Alright, I am going to leave this alone. November is just right around the corner.

Currently they need 20mbps for 1080/60fps. After everything is said and done they expect 30mbps for 4k/60fps

And that doesn't sound fishy to you at all........

Even with netflix who are streaming 30fps videos.....

5Mbs recommended for HD streams.

25Mbs recommended for 4k srteams.