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Are cloud gaming the future of gaming ?

Yes 16 30.19%
 
No 19 35.85%
 
Somehow 11 20.75%
 
Not Quite 7 13.21%
 
Total:53

The latency is probably not going to be an issue for everyone. - And yet, latency is going to be a catastrophic issue for some, physically the closest Google server for me is half a continent away.

The compression artifacts that reduce visuals is also not going to be an issue for everyone, if everyone cared about visuals, everyone would be a PC Gamer and the Wii wouldn't have been the success it was.

I think it will be interesting to see where Google takes this... With Vega 56 levels of GPU grunt backing it, it might just surprise... But one thing is for sure, if anyone is able to take the fight to Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and potentially be successful... It's Google.

And no two ways about it, this is likely the future of gaming, just not for me though. I like my games rendered locally.



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Pretty positive video even for this early version of Stadia.

No idea how OP only got negatives from that.

This stuff will be huge in a few years especially with integration in Youtube.

Amazon and Facebook will probably do the same with integration in Twitch, on Facebook and so on and Apple will probably also have something like that.

Still so many doubters in gaming forums about a huge part of the future of gaming.

Not sure if people really doubt it or if they just don't like to face reality and fear about their favourite gaming companies to not dominate for the next hundred years.

Last edited by crissindahouse - on 19 March 2019

crissindahouse said:

Pretty positive video even for this early version of Stadia.

No idea how OP only got negatives from that.

This stuff will be huge in a few years especially with integration in Youtube.

Amazon and Facebook will probably do the same with integration in Twitch, on Facebook and so on and Apple will probably also have something like that.

Still so many doubters in gaming forums about a huge part of the future of gaming.

Not sure if people really doubt it or if they just don't like to face reality and fear about their favourite gaming companies to not dominate for the next hundred years.

Pretty Positive?  Which part of the video said it's very positive , HMMM??

Negative probably, but i am just mirroring what the video said.

Yeah sure, and is not like this was the first time game streaming ever came to the market (Onlive, gaikai, PS now) 

I thinks people around the world doubt this will be the future based on current reality of our Internet infrastructure around the world, geopolitic, world economy, and others think to consider.  

People will not fear something that is exiting. if people fear this, means  google has failed to introduce their vision.



shikamaru317 said:

Northern Australia? I found it curious when looking at their map today that they don't have a single edge node in the northern half of Australia. India was also missing nodes, which is strange since it is a quickly growing gaming market. 

I am in South Australia, but close enough.

Looking at Googles edge node map, seems a node was installed in Adelaide, so they are getting closer... But because I live in a rural area, I'll never have one physically near me, this continent is vast.



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shikamaru317 said:
Pemalite said:

I am in South Australia, but close enough.

Looking at Googles edge node map, seems a node was installed in Adelaide, so they are getting closer... But because I live in a rural area, I'll never have one physically near me, this continent is vast.

I'm lucky, the closest node to me is about 300 miles away I believe. I had very little extra input lag in the beta test. 

UK has them everywhere, you are just unlucky.



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EDITED BEFORE I GET BANNED FOR CALLING SOMEONE ELSE A FANBOY

So let me rephrase it by saying OP merely posted factual news in a very opinionated way

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Pemalite said:

The latency is probably not going to be an issue for everyone. - And yet, latency is going to be a catastrophic issue for some, physically the closest Google server for me is half a continent away.

The compression artifacts that reduce visuals is also not going to be an issue for everyone, if everyone cared about visuals, everyone would be a PC Gamer and the Wii wouldn't have been the success it was.

I think it will be interesting to see where Google takes this... With Vega 56 levels of GPU grunt backing it, it might just surprise... But one thing is for sure, if anyone is able to take the fight to Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and potentially be successful... It's Google.

And no two ways about it, this is likely the future of gaming, just not for me though. I like my games rendered locally.

Yeah, it's a 56CU GPU, but too fast for it. I'm wondering if they are using MI50 with 4 deactivated CU instead, as that would fit performance wise.

But what intrigues me more is the CPU. 9.5MB of combined L2+L3 cache is both a very weird number and an awfully low amount of CPU cache nowadays. Also, I couldn't find a chip with those specs, no Core, no Xeon, no Ryzen or Epyc fits the description. My guess is it's based on a Coffee Lake Xeon E 2176M, but with less L3 cache (8 instead of 12MB, with the missing 1.5MB coming from the 256KiB per core) and probably lower boost clocks (only the all-core boost really matters in servers anyway).



Lafiel said:
pretty good input lag performance on DF's test there, keeping up with a local X1X (both running the game in 30fps)

 Keep in mind they were using a net connection that was 200MBps, that's 8 times faster than 200Mbps btw, so ... yeah around 16 times what I have right now.



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Pemalite said:
shikamaru317 said:

Northern Australia? I found it curious when looking at their map today that they don't have a single edge node in the northern half of Australia. India was also missing nodes, which is strange since it is a quickly growing gaming market. 

I am in South Australia, but close enough.

Looking at Googles edge node map, seems a node was installed in Adelaide, so they are getting closer... But because I live in a rural area, I'll never have one physically near me, this continent is vast.

I'm gonna have to wait a bit, but Google is starting to build one of it's biggest datacenters and nodes in Luxembourg. Once it's ready, it would be less than 20 kilometers away from my home, but until then, Frankfurt or Paris would have to do.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Pemalite said:

The latency is probably not going to be an issue for everyone. - And yet, latency is going to be a catastrophic issue for some, physically the closest Google server for me is half a continent away.

The compression artifacts that reduce visuals is also not going to be an issue for everyone, if everyone cared about visuals, everyone would be a PC Gamer and the Wii wouldn't have been the success it was.

I think it will be interesting to see where Google takes this... With Vega 56 levels of GPU grunt backing it, it might just surprise... But one thing is for sure, if anyone is able to take the fight to Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and potentially be successful... It's Google.

And no two ways about it, this is likely the future of gaming, just not for me though. I like my games rendered locally.

Yeah, it's a 56CU GPU, but too fast for it. I'm wondering if they are using MI50 with 4 deactivated CU instead, as that would fit performance wise.

But what intrigues me more is the CPU. 9.5MB of combined L2+L3 cache is both a very weird number and an awfully low amount of CPU cache nowadays. Also, I couldn't find a chip with those specs, no Core, no Xeon, no Ryzen or Epyc fits the description. My guess is it's based on a Coffee Lake Xeon E 2176M, but with less L3 cache (8 instead of 12MB, with the missing 1.5MB coming from the 256KiB per core) and probably lower boost clocks (only the all-core boost really matters in servers anyway).

Definitely Vega 56 with different clocks. Instinct's bandwidth is far to high.
CPU could be anything... Not really enough information to make a definitive answer, parts of the cache could be deactivated for various reasons. (Power, Reliability, Yields etc'.)



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