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danasider said:

Yeah, chances of anything like this happening are about as good as getting arrested for jaywalking.

I've shared, because I have 4 screens simultaneous viewing in ultra HD (how the heck am I going to use 4 screens at the same time if the account isn't shared, btw) and am paying the premium price. Never had an issue, not even a cease and desist letter (have gotten it for going to websites that stream free hollywood movies so I know they aren't a myth).

You're living in a misplaced fear.

I've already explained what this is about. Do yourself a favor and read through the posts. 

This is not about fear lol

I read what you have to say, but explain someone using a cell phone and someone else using a smart tv and someone else using a laptop (in a Starbucks). There's no way Netflix can tell these people are not part of the same household.

It may not be fear (sounds like it), but all your responses seems to indicate an irrational expectation of Netflix somehow knowing these things all belong (or don't belong) to one household either through IP addresses or whatever, when the mobile space basically makes this impossible for them to tell. Extreme cases are easier, sure. And even then if I go to Europe, which I will be this may, and use a new phone, does that mean I shouldn't be able to connect to my own service Netflix is gouging me for since they raise the price every other year? And then that service is shut off for a potential housemate back home? This is why so many people share accounts. It's pretty damn hard for Netflix to tell.

If it's the high moral ground of violating a contract, I don't feel sorry for a corporate entity that makes millions upon millions of dollars in profit, doesn't pay taxes on it, and still manages to raise the price because according to them content is getting so expensive. Okay, if it is, then why are they making more PROFIT (not just money, but money after operating costs) then ever? Corporate greed and pleasing stock holders by maximizing profits in spite of consumer satisfaction.

Gimme a break.



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danasider said:

 

I've already explained what this is about. Do yourself a favor and read through the posts. 

This is not about fear lol

1. I read what you have to say, but explain someone using a cell phone and someone else using a smart tv and someone else using a laptop (in a Starbucks). There's no way Netflix can tell these people are not part of the same household.

2. may not be fear (sounds like it), but all your responses seems to indicate an irrational expectation of Netflix somehow knowing these things all belong (or don't belong) to one household either through IP addresses or whatever, when the mobile space basically makes this impossible for them to tell. Extreme cases are easier, sure. And even then if I go to Europe, which I will be this may, and use a new phone, does that mean I shouldn't be able to connect to my own service Netflix is gouging me for since they raise the price every other year? And then that service is shut off for a potential housemate back home? This is why so many people share accounts. It's pretty damn hard for Netflix to tell.

3. it's the high moral ground of violating a contract, I don't feel sorry for a corporate entity that makes millions upon millions of dollars in profit, doesn't pay taxes on it, and still manages to raise the price because according to them content is getting so expensive. Okay, if it is, then why are they making more PROFIT (not just money, but money after operating costs) then ever? Corporate greed and pleasing stock holders by maximizing profits in spite of consumer satisfaction.

Gimme a break.

1. I've already adressed this. Check your activity logs and tell me how Netflix knows the used device. They also collect hardware imformation for fraud purposes. Not difficult to log your account activity further. From the article from january this year it's not about if Netflix will or won't do something about account sharing, it's about when and how. 

 

2. Part of answer is on number 1 and this is also about excessive usage.

 

3. That's the part where I say, that's entirely up to you. Netflix is owned by share holders, and it's all about money. If there is a chance of getting more money, they will go for it.



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1. I've already adressed this. Check your activity logs and tell me how Netflix knows the used device. They also collect hardware imformation for fraud purposes. Not difficult to log your account activity further. From the article from january this year it's not about if Netflix will or won't do something about account sharing, it's about when and how. 

 

2. Part of answer is on number 1 and this is also about excessive usage.

 

3. That's the part where I say, that's entirely up to you. Netflix is owned by share holders, and it's all about money. If there is a chance of getting more money, they will go for it.

1. You don't seem to understand. I understand how Netflix can keep track of devices on a technical level. I am saying that because they offer a service, it is difficult for them to actually enforce anything.

If I wanted to log in from a library or anywhere, I should be able to and can use my service. That won't won't prevent people from my household from using said service. Hence why if someone somewhere else uses my service, how is Netflix going to know I am not away from home using the service I subscribe to on the road while my folks use it at home?

They can't.

2. There is no limit to usage in Netflix in terms of streaming. Only screens. The only way I would be flagged for possibly violating my contract if I consistently have more than 4 screens at a time using the service.

That's it. So if I give my password to 3 friends/family members and tell them to not use on more than one screen, I'm good. It's not like I know a crazy amount of people across the world (proximity does matter, but I think most sharers are similar to me in that they are sharing with people they know and not people across the globe).

And even when I only had the 1 screen option, and someone would log in, they couldn't log in, because Netflix would notify them too many screens are being used. I upgraded because this happened to me. Didn't get banned or anything.

Netflix has 139 million subscribers and counting. How many millions of those do you think share?

Netflix isn't in the business of losing subscriptions, no matter what article you read about them getting down on subscribers who share. It's fiction.



danasider said:
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1. I've already adressed this. Check your activity logs and tell me how Netflix knows the used device. They also collect hardware imformation for fraud purposes. Not difficult to log your account activity further. From the article from january this year it's not about if Netflix will or won't do something about account sharing, it's about when and how. 

 

2. Part of answer is on number 1 and this is also about excessive usage.

 

3. That's the part where I say, that's entirely up to you. Netflix is owned by share holders, and it's all about money. If there is a chance of getting more money, they will go for it.

1. You don't seem to understand. I understand how Netflix can keep track of devices on a technical level. I am saying that because they offer a service, it is difficult for them to actually enforce anything.

If I wanted to log in from a library or anywhere, I should be able to and can use my service. That won't won't prevent people from my household from using said service. Hence why if someone somewhere else uses my service, how is Netflix going to know I am not away from home using the service I subscribe to on the road while my folks use it at home?

They can't.

There is no limit to usage in Netflix in terms of streaming. Only screens. The only way I would be flagged for possibly violating my contract if I consistently have more than 4 screens at a time using the service.

That's it. So if I give my password to 3 friends/family members and tell them to not use on more than one screen, I'm good. It's not like I know a crazy amount of people across the world (proximity does matter, but I think most sharers are similar to me in that they are sharing with people they know and not people across the globe).

And even when I only had the 1 screen option, and someone would log in, they couldn't log in, because Netflix would notify them too many screens are being used. I upgraded because this happened to me. Didn't get banned or anything.

2. Netflix has 139 million subscribers and counting. How many millions of those do you think share?

Netflix isn't in the business of losing subscriptions, no matter what article you read about them getting down on subscribers who share. It's fiction.

1 Like I said, it's up to you what you do with your account. But don't act to be smarter than others without knowing what's going on in the backround. 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/766166/netflix-hbo-user-accounts-sharing-synamedia-madeleine-mccann

"Synamedia has unveiled a new AI system where they can catch out users sharing accounts.

The company’s machine learning is used to spot where shared passwords are being used.

The service is able to decide how to deal with the offender by either making them upgrade to a premium service or shutting down the account."

Also, you say that Netflix can't do anything about it or won't in that matter? ….They are already working on it as we speak.

2. https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a26566047/your-sponging-off-other-peoples-accounts-is-costing-netflix-dollar192m-a-month/ 



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1 Like I said, it's up to you what you do with your account. But don't act to be smarter than others without knowing what's going on in the backround. 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/766166/netflix-hbo-user-accounts-sharing-synamedia-madeleine-mccann

"Synamedia has unveiled a new AI system where they can catch out users sharing accounts.

The company’s machine learning is used to spot where shared passwords are being used.

The service is able to decide how to deal with the offender by either making them upgrade to a premium service or shutting down the account."

Also, you say that Netflix can't do anything about it or won't in that matter? ….They are already working on it as we speak.

2. https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a26566047/your-sponging-off-other-peoples-accounts-is-costing-netflix-dollar192m-a-month/ 

Except people in the same household are already allowed to share passwords. Think about it.

This is a scare tactic put out to try and scare people from sharing passwords, because they think they'll be banned. So the AI can tell people are sharing passwords...is it against the contract to share passwords with your wife or child or roommate or partner?

If I visit a friend or a family member and watch Netflix on a device at their house on a regular basis while someone is watching at my house, is that against the contract? How is the AI going to tell the difference between that situation and two people who live apart and share an account?

I work in software. I know AI has come far, but I don't think this will pan out. And if Netflix somehow finds 15-20million people doing these things, the company is not going to suddenly ban all of them. That'd be corporate suicide.



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I will now not feel bad. Thanks!