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outlawauron said:

 


The don't worry was just a bit to go along with the topic title about people potentially feeling bad about sharing Netflix logins (I don't care one way or another). I didn't get your point because Netflix hasn't done anything wrong and what can be exempted isn't going to change as it one of the more untouchable policies like Medicare and social security.

Why would you not take advantage of the rules in play? If you can do something that benefits yourself, why not do it? I say hopefully because surely no one would voluntarily hurt themselves by not filing their information correctly. It'd be like not utilizing DPS pushes to avoid mechanics and force a phase change in some of FF14 raids .

 

Oh I get it now. My mistake.



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Peh said:
Ganoncrotch said:

This post should have ended at the bolded.

You are talking absolute tin foil hat levels of "well you could do X and Y so maybe they are doing it" Like I said, the post and your whole thoughts in this thread are based on a small amount of networking/PC hardware knowledge and the sort of paranoia you find in a VPN commercial.

Even if Netflix is using magic to determine the device I use for streaming, doesn't mean it's not receiving the data from my device in order to determine from where I stream. The actual details are not important for the argument. 

https://www.threatmetrix.com/digital-identity-insight/case-study/netflix-prevents-new-account-fraud-in-real-time/

Digital Identities are created by combining the following key intelligence:

 

  • Device profiling – Device identification, device health and application integrity, as well as detection of location cloaking or spoofing, (proxies, VPNs and the TOR browser).

  • Threat intelligence – Harnessing point-in-time detection of malware, Remote Access Trojans (RATs), automated bot attacks, session hijacking and phished accounts, then combining with global threat information such as known fraudsters and botnet participation.

  • Identity Data – Incorporating anonymized, non-regulated personal information such as user name, email address and more.

  • Behavior analytics – Defining a pattern of trusted user behavior by combining identity and transactional metadata with device identifiers, connection and location characteristics. Every transaction can be analyzed in the context of this behavior pattern and historic context globally.

Netflix is not stupid, don't act like it is. 

https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a25855390/netflix-could-stop-you-sharing-your-account-with-your-mates/

 I'll keep my tin foil hat on. Thanks for your concern. Have fun with your account sharing. 

The first chunk of this reply is about Netflix working to stop people repeatedly using free trials rather than paying for the service.... what relevance does this have to the thread or my post. Or did you just google the words "netflix" and "threat" and pasted in parts out of context of what they're actually about. Terrible.

"However, as Netflix has expanded into emerging global markets, the risk of fraud has also increased. Isolated fraudsters as well as organized criminal networks seek to capitalize on free trials, opening new accounts with stolen identities and providing false or stolen payment information. Netflix needed a global, holistic response to this growing fraud trend, while maintaining its trusted reputation and reducing friction for legitimate customers."

Just putting it out there that I wasted time clicking one link by you that was unrelated, I'm not making the same mistake twice.

I shall have fun sharing my account under the knowledge that Netflix have a firm working to stop people from abusing their one month free trial offers....



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Ganoncrotch said:
Peh said:

Even if Netflix is using magic to determine the device I use for streaming, doesn't mean it's not receiving the data from my device in order to determine from where I stream. The actual details are not important for the argument. 

https://www.threatmetrix.com/digital-identity-insight/case-study/netflix-prevents-new-account-fraud-in-real-time/

Digital Identities are created by combining the following key intelligence:

 

  • Device profiling – Device identification, device health and application integrity, as well as detection of location cloaking or spoofing, (proxies, VPNs and the TOR browser).

  • Threat intelligence – Harnessing point-in-time detection of malware, Remote Access Trojans (RATs), automated bot attacks, session hijacking and phished accounts, then combining with global threat information such as known fraudsters and botnet participation.

  • Identity Data – Incorporating anonymized, non-regulated personal information such as user name, email address and more.

  • Behavior analytics – Defining a pattern of trusted user behavior by combining identity and transactional metadata with device identifiers, connection and location characteristics. Every transaction can be analyzed in the context of this behavior pattern and historic context globally.

Netflix is not stupid, don't act like it is. 

https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a25855390/netflix-could-stop-you-sharing-your-account-with-your-mates/

 I'll keep my tin foil hat on. Thanks for your concern. Have fun with your account sharing. 

The first chunk of this reply is about Netflix working to stop people repeatedly using free trials rather than paying for the service.... what relevance does this have to the thread or my post. Or did you just google the words "netflix" and "threat" and pasted in parts out of context of what they're actually about. Terrible.

"However, as Netflix has expanded into emerging global markets, the risk of fraud has also increased. Isolated fraudsters as well as organized criminal networks seek to capitalize on free trials, opening new accounts with stolen identities and providing false or stolen payment information. Netflix needed a global, holistic response to this growing fraud trend, while maintaining its trusted reputation and reducing friction for legitimate customers."

Just putting it out there that I wasted time clicking one link by you that was unrelated, I'm not making the same mistake twice.

 

I shall have fun sharing my account under the knowledge that Netflix have a firm working to stop people from abusing their one month free trial offers....

>.<

Connecting the dots doesn't seem to be your strength.

 

The first link should make you aware that Netflix is using tools for collecting device specific data and verify them. That is mainly used against fraudst on free trials. The second link, which even says in it's URL is about stopping account sharing. But yeah, turning a blind eye is much easier.



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I dont know why they are paying zero in taxes but remember that profit and taxabke profit are different things. For example if you jave several years of losses, once you make a profit you dont pay taxes right away. You can compensate you profits with past losses so, after several years having huge losses, you dont have the government taking your cash away right atbthe first time you have a profit. Which is a very reasonable rule.
Dont know if this is the case, but just saying.



Peh said:
Ganoncrotch said:

The first chunk of this reply is about Netflix working to stop people repeatedly using free trials rather than paying for the service.... what relevance does this have to the thread or my post. Or did you just google the words "netflix" and "threat" and pasted in parts out of context of what they're actually about. Terrible.

"However, as Netflix has expanded into emerging global markets, the risk of fraud has also increased. Isolated fraudsters as well as organized criminal networks seek to capitalize on free trials, opening new accounts with stolen identities and providing false or stolen payment information. Netflix needed a global, holistic response to this growing fraud trend, while maintaining its trusted reputation and reducing friction for legitimate customers."

Just putting it out there that I wasted time clicking one link by you that was unrelated, I'm not making the same mistake twice.

 

I shall have fun sharing my account under the knowledge that Netflix have a firm working to stop people from abusing their one month free trial offers....

>.<

Connecting the dots doesn't seem to be your strength.

 

The first link should make you aware that Netflix is using tools for collecting device specific data and verify them. That is mainly used against fraudst on free trials. The second link, which even says in it's URL is about stopping account sharing. But yeah, turning a blind eye is much easier.

Connect dots all you want until you've drawn a tin foil hat to wear, if you search for it you'll find clickbait rubbish that will draw you in for a read and amounts to nothing, want proof of that, here's an article from 2017 on that same DS site you linked.

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a16082/netflix-password-sharing-crime/

Prison time for sharing passwords! I hope all those people in 2017 didn't have too rough a time in Jail.

I'm not saying that at no point will they try to clamp down on doing it if it was possible, but at a time when they are getting more and more competition from other groups I can't imagine they're going to jump on a the PR grenade that is cutting off a lot of the way some users enjoy the service.

Even if they were to attempt to stop the practice down the line.... why not make use of the ability to do so until that point anyway?

This is my last reply on the topic to yourself though! Don't imagine this is the first time you've shared your opinion on this and really don't see it working towards being the last, you believe what you believe and yeah that's not gonna change here so more posts aren't going to do much other than page views for VGChartz!



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Peh said:
Don't.
First: Netflix will cancel your contract, which is not a real issue in itself.
Second: You will have to pay for the damage you did by sharing your account and could get sued. But there is yet no case known where people actually got sued. So, it's more likely that nothing will happen in this case.

I personally don't recommend it for whatever reason, but it's your life...

Yeah, chances of anything like this happening are about as good as getting arrested for jaywalking.

I've shared, because I have 4 screens simultaneous viewing in ultra HD (how the heck am I going to use 4 screens at the same time if the account isn't shared, btw) and am paying the premium price. Never had an issue, not even a cease and desist letter (have gotten it for going to websites that stream free hollywood movies so I know they aren't a myth).

You're living in a misplaced fear.



EnricoPallazzo said:
I dont know why they are paying zero in taxes but remember that profit and taxabke profit are different things. For example if you jave several years of losses, once you make a profit you dont pay taxes right away. You can compensate you profits with past losses so, after several years having huge losses, you dont have the government taking your cash away right atbthe first time you have a profit. Which is a very reasonable rule.
Dont know if this is the case, but just saying.

Or they can just do what a lot of companies do and basically donate a bit to charity which is tax deductible so they get PR and they get slightly more control over the money they have to pay out regardless. Heck some of the shows that they produce might technically count as tax write offs if they're documentaries which include charity work or are used to advertise charities.



Fancy hearing me on an amateur podcast with friends gushing over one of my favourite games? https://youtu.be/1I7JfMMxhf8

Oh my gosh, because I told some to be aware of violating their own contract and telling them that YET they are no known cases of people been sued or anything like that they start acting like they've burst a testicle. WOW. I can see that you guys FEEL entitled for violating your contracts. As I said, that's entirely up to you, but the way you justify and defend your act is far more than ridiculous. XD

Ganoncrotch said:
Peh said:

>.<

Connecting the dots doesn't seem to be your strength.

 

The first link should make you aware that Netflix is using tools for collecting device specific data and verify them. That is mainly used against fraudst on free trials. The second link, which even says in it's URL is about stopping account sharing. But yeah, turning a blind eye is much easier.

Connect dots all you want until you've drawn a tin foil hat to wear, if you search for it you'll find clickbait rubbish that will draw you in for a read and amounts to nothing, want proof of that, here's an article from 2017 on that same DS site you linked.

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a16082/netflix-password-sharing-crime/

Prison time for sharing passwords! I hope all those people in 2017 didn't have too rough a time in Jail.

I'm not saying that at no point will they try to clamp down on doing it if it was possible, but at a time when they are getting more and more competition from other groups I can't imagine they're going to jump on a the PR grenade that is cutting off a lot of the way some users enjoy the service.

 

Even if they were to attempt to stop the practice down the line.... why not make use of the ability to do so until that point anyway?

This is my last reply on the topic to yourself though! Don't imagine this is the first time you've shared your opinion on this and really don't see it working towards being the last, you believe what you believe and yeah that's not gonna change here so more posts aren't going to do much other than page views for VGChartz!

Leave my goddamn tin foil hats alone. I like how they sparkle in the sun. 

That sharing your password with others is against the terms of agreement is hopefully not something that I have to explain to you. Going to jail is far fetched, though.  

You are allowed to stream on 4 devices at the same time in the same household with the premium option. That account sharing is meant for family members. Netflix itself says so. Not me. That option costs 14 € for one household. You share it with 3 others. Netflix potential loss of 42€ per account due to sharing. Do the math for several million people doing so. As it is stated in the link from January this year, the amount of people sharing with different households seems to big, thus they will now take measures. What those measures will be are unknown as of now. 

 

danasider said:
Peh said:
Don't.
First: Netflix will cancel your contract, which is not a real issue in itself.
Second: You will have to pay for the damage you did by sharing your account and could get sued. But there is yet no case known where people actually got sued. So, it's more likely that nothing will happen in this case.

I personally don't recommend it for whatever reason, but it's your life...

Yeah, chances of anything like this happening are about as good as getting arrested for jaywalking.

I've shared, because I have 4 screens simultaneous viewing in ultra HD (how the heck am I going to use 4 screens at the same time if the account isn't shared, btw) and am paying the premium price. Never had an issue, not even a cease and desist letter (have gotten it for going to websites that stream free hollywood movies so I know they aren't a myth).

You're living in a misplaced fear.

I've already explained what this is about. Do yourself a favor and read through the posts. 

This is not about fear lol



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I use Netflix on like 10,000 different devices. My phones and tablets, my several game consoles, my Dish Network receivers for my dumb TVs, 4K for my smart TV, sometimes I watch at someone else's home, and my daughter has her own profile.

I WISH Netflix would accuse me of not being me. I'd drop their service so fast.



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Peh said:

Oh my gosh, because I told some to be aware of violating their own contract and telling them that YET they are no known cases of people been sued or anything like that they start acting like they've burst a testicle. WOW. I can see that you guys FEEL entitled for violating your contracts. As I said, that's entirely up to you, but the way you justify and defend your act is far more than ridiculous. XD


Yeah ,we each got our contract and to make the choice for violation is up those that feel entitled to it but those same people should ofcourse not be too upset when they have their account blocked or something.

I could name some personal reasons on why i would do it but when i buy a product and sign for the rules attached to it then i should hold myself to them,but im conflicted cause rules and laws are not always on the moral highground themselves and when a rule is not being obeyed en masse it can speak volumes about its fairness?

So i agree and disagree lol.