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HEY I just want to say thank you for all the people that hook up your fam and your neighborhood for years!!! #YourAHero

Last edited by deskpro2k3 - on 19 March 2019

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deskpro2k3 said:

That's right folks, don't feel bad, share your Netflix account with your entire neighborhood because according to ITEP, Labor 411, and Snopes, Netflix made $845 million in profits and paid $0 In taxes.

Now this isn't something new, corporations like General Electric paid $0 in taxes under the Obama era. Now conservatives fixed it for the corporations even more. The latest tax cut from 35% to 21% made it a heck of a lot easier for major corporations to end up paying no taxes because their loopholes weren't removed or cut. They had to shelter much less money than before. It makes perfect sense that the new tax laws made it easy for this to happen.

So go ahead, share your Netflix, dim the lights, put on some musk, light a candle.. let'em watch!

Don't worry, their 5,500+ employees all paid income tax, social security, and medicare. Of course, Netflix paid nothing in income tax, which means that the tax that would have been paid was deducted on other expenses like previous debts, interest on debts, and non-income taxes (property tax, etc).

I don't really understand the point of the post, because anyone with a brain (person or corporation) is hopefully taking advantage of all tax deductions in the system. I do and they'd be stupid not to. Changing tax code and what exemptions can be taken would require economists and CPAs in Congress though, and that's not going to happen.



Peh said:
setsunatenshi said:

Not really, you can use netflix on your mobile through a 4g connection for example. You may be traveling abroad, etc. Definitely not using the same IP address in either case.

Netflix is logging your whole activity. Meaning IP-address / device and the time of course. I don't know the exact data which Netflix is aquiring from your device, but it's not difficult to get your hardware ID you are using when logging in with your mobile device. So, while your IP-address is changing, your hardware ID stays the same. Thus, they are aware of you being the user of that mobile device. 

My IP-address changes each 24 hours, or when I reconnect to my provider. But try to explain two or more Smart TV's which are actually stationary with each having a different IP-address streaming Netflix at the same time. All that stuff is being logged. You can also verify this on your own for the last 60 days.

This post should have ended at the bolded.

You are talking absolute tin foil hat levels of "well you could do X and Y so maybe they are doing it" Like I said, the post and your whole thoughts in this thread are based on a small amount of networking/PC hardware knowledge and the sort of paranoia you find in a VPN commercial.

As for the OP and Netflix sharing, aye, I've got a 4 screen 4k account and 4 different places are logged in with that, had it for about 2 years with the current group of people and really it's no issue, but of course if you have basic netflix account you can just have it on a single screen, you need the higher tiers to allow multiple viewers at once.

As for doing it because of how much Tax they pay.... what does that have to do with me? You think Netflix is the only one that makes use of those loopholes where billions are funneled through? for a laugh you should see how Apple used Ireland's tax loophole to funnel every sale in Europe through their branch in Cork to pay effectively no Tax on it (I think somewhere in the region of 50cent per million euro) I'm not saying Netflix doesn't use loopholes to avoid paying it, but there are bigger fish in the sea avoid paying it and being honest, I'd rather my €15 a month goes to creating new content and shows for me to watch rather than Netflix CEO having a conscious and using that money to fill in a giant hole left by Apple and Co.

This is worth a read, it's good stuff https://fora.ie/apple-eu-ireland-state-aid-2955114-Aug2016/

"the commission said the deal between Apple and Ireland allowed the company to pay a tax rate of only 1% on its European profits in 2003, with that figure sliding to as little as 0.005% by 2014."



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Ganoncrotch said:
Peh said:

Netflix is logging your whole activity. Meaning IP-address / device and the time of course. I don't know the exact data which Netflix is aquiring from your device, but it's not difficult to get your hardware ID you are using when logging in with your mobile device. So, while your IP-address is changing, your hardware ID stays the same. Thus, they are aware of you being the user of that mobile device. 

My IP-address changes each 24 hours, or when I reconnect to my provider. But try to explain two or more Smart TV's which are actually stationary with each having a different IP-address streaming Netflix at the same time. All that stuff is being logged. You can also verify this on your own for the last 60 days.

This post should have ended at the bolded.

You are talking absolute tin foil hat levels of "well you could do X and Y so maybe they are doing it" Like I said, the post and your whole thoughts in this thread are based on a small amount of networking/PC hardware knowledge and the sort of paranoia you find in a VPN commercial.

Even if Netflix is using magic to determine the device I use for streaming, doesn't mean it's not receiving the data from my device in order to determine from where I stream. The actual details are not important for the argument. 

https://www.threatmetrix.com/digital-identity-insight/case-study/netflix-prevents-new-account-fraud-in-real-time/

Digital Identities are created by combining the following key intelligence:

 

  • Device profiling – Device identification, device health and application integrity, as well as detection of location cloaking or spoofing, (proxies, VPNs and the TOR browser).

  • Threat intelligence – Harnessing point-in-time detection of malware, Remote Access Trojans (RATs), automated bot attacks, session hijacking and phished accounts, then combining with global threat information such as known fraudsters and botnet participation.

  • Identity Data – Incorporating anonymized, non-regulated personal information such as user name, email address and more.

  • Behavior analytics – Defining a pattern of trusted user behavior by combining identity and transactional metadata with device identifiers, connection and location characteristics. Every transaction can be analyzed in the context of this behavior pattern and historic context globally.

Netflix is not stupid, don't act like it is. 

https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a25855390/netflix-could-stop-you-sharing-your-account-with-your-mates/

 I'll keep my tin foil hat on. Thanks for your concern. Have fun with your account sharing. 



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Hopefully you're not using the same password anywhere else if you're sharing your Netflix account. Hopefully you also trust the people you're sharing your account with.



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deskpro2k3 said:

HEY I just want to say thank you for all the people that hook up your fam and your neighborhood for years!!! #YourAHero

I did not find any logins or passwords in this thread.

Nadda



Peh said:
Don't.
First: Netflix will cancel your contract, which is not a real issue in itself.
Second: You will have to pay for the damage you did by sharing your account and could get sued. But there is yet no case known where people actually got sued. So, it's more likely that nothing will happen in this case.

I personally don't recommend it for whatever reason, but it's your life...

Im paying to watch it on 4 devices at the same time so i dont know if sharing under this circumstance is found problematic by netflix .



Mospeada21CA said:
deskpro2k3 said:

HEY I just want to say thank you for all the people that hook up your fam and your neighborhood for years!!! #YourAHero

I did not find any logins or passwords in this thread.

Nadda

hey man! I'm sure one of your friends or family member have a netflix account that they're willing to share.

 

outlawauron said:
deskpro2k3 said:

That's right folks, don't feel bad, share your Netflix account with your entire neighborhood because according to ITEP, Labor 411, and Snopes, Netflix made $845 million in profits and paid $0 In taxes.

Now this isn't something new, corporations like General Electric paid $0 in taxes under the Obama era. Now conservatives fixed it for the corporations even more. The latest tax cut from 35% to 21% made it a heck of a lot easier for major corporations to end up paying no taxes because their loopholes weren't removed or cut. They had to shelter much less money than before. It makes perfect sense that the new tax laws made it easy for this to happen.

So go ahead, share your Netflix, dim the lights, put on some musk, light a candle.. let'em watch!

Don't worry, their 5,500+ employees all paid income tax, social security, and medicare. Of course, Netflix paid nothing in income tax, which means that the tax that would have been paid was deducted on other expenses like previous debts, interest on debts, and non-income taxes (property tax, etc).

I don't really understand the point of the post, because anyone with a brain (person or corporation) is hopefully taking advantage of all tax deductions in the system. I do and they'd be stupid not to. Changing tax code and what exemptions can be taken would require economists and CPAs in Congress though, and that's not going to happen.

Do I look worried to you? Wait wha, you don't understand the point of the post now? Let me take some words right out from your post.

"I don't really understand the point of the post"  The point of the post ------> "(person or corporation) is hopefully taking advantage of all tax deductions in the system."

And you even put "hopefully". I mean damn dude.



Immersiveunreality said:
Peh said:
Don't.
First: Netflix will cancel your contract, which is not a real issue in itself.
Second: You will have to pay for the damage you did by sharing your account and could get sued. But there is yet no case known where people actually got sued. So, it's more likely that nothing will happen in this case.

I personally don't recommend it for whatever reason, but it's your life...

Im paying to watch it on 4 devices at the same time so i dont know if sharing under this circumstance is found problematic by netflix .

Account sharing in your own household is allowed. 



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deskpro2k3 said:
Mospeada21CA said:

I did not find any logins or passwords in this thread.

Nadda

hey man! I'm sure one of your friends or family member have a netflix account that they're willing to share.

 

outlawauron said:

Don't worry, their 5,500+ employees all paid income tax, social security, and medicare. Of course, Netflix paid nothing in income tax, which means that the tax that would have been paid was deducted on other expenses like previous debts, interest on debts, and non-income taxes (property tax, etc).

I don't really understand the point of the post, because anyone with a brain (person or corporation) is hopefully taking advantage of all tax deductions in the system. I do and they'd be stupid not to. Changing tax code and what exemptions can be taken would require economists and CPAs in Congress though, and that's not going to happen.

Do I look worried to you? Wait wha, you don't understand the point of the post now? Let me take some words right out from your post.

"I don't really understand the point of the post"  The point of the post ------> "(person or corporation) is hopefully taking advantage of all tax deductions in the system."

And you even put "hopefully". I mean damn dude.

The don't worry was just a bit to go along with the topic title about people potentially feeling bad about sharing Netflix logins (I don't care one way or another). I didn't get your point because Netflix hasn't done anything wrong and what can be exempted isn't going to change as it one of the more untouchable policies like Medicare and social security.

Why would you not take advantage of the rules in play? If you can do something that benefits yourself, why not do it? I say hopefully because surely no one would voluntarily hurt themselves by not filing their information correctly. It'd be like not utilizing DPS pushes to avoid mechanics and force a phase change in some of FF14 raids .