Yeah, I think similar. That is why Biden is as bad a choice as Clinton. Because people elect Biden because he is Democrat, not because they are genuinely excited for him (as they were for Obama for instance).

That's why I also think the crowded primary is a good thing for the democrats. Because people that support Yang might or might not vote in the end for Biden, but if this primary again would've been a coronoation, the Yang-gang wouldn't have cared in the first place and so surely wouldn't have gone to the election. Same with other candidates.

Like Tsogud said, I don't think you're grasping the magnitude of the situation here. As important as defeating Trump is, it's not my foremost priority in this election. My foremost priority is saving the planet...to whatever extent that's even still possible at this point anyway. The climate crisis is the much bigger crisis before us. We have ONE decade left to make mega-progress on reducing carbon emissions, which, as your gif perfectly illustrates, is something that Joe Biden simply will not do. Won't even try. The Green New Deal is a dividing-line for me in this election. It's objectively imperative at this stage that serious action, specifically involving trillions of dollars of investment in public works, start to be undertaken IMMEDIATELY! That's NOT an option! Anything less than that and not just us, but the whole Earth will suffer consequences of a magnitude that can be hardly imagined even now.

This isn't the time for wishy-washy, corporate-friendly, middle-of-the-road candidates who won't take THE most serious emergency confronting the world seriously. If ever there were a time for a principled candidate with bold ideas, that time is right now because the next election cycle will pretty much for sure be too late.

Remember everyone, polls are misleading. Wasn't Hillary suppose to win a landslide?

I agree, though I fear it's already too late to avoid it. By now, all we can do is mitigate it and it's effects.

With the melting of the ice caps accelerating more and more, I seriously doubt Miami and New Orleans will make it much further than 2050 before they need to be abandoned, at least partially. And that's just the effects of the rising sea level in the US, not even touching all the other things that will happen or are already starting to happen (like the polar air current wobbling due to it not being cold enough to fully sustain it anymore).

Yeah, she was leading the polls by about 2% shortly before the election. Which is about what she beat Trump in the popular vote. A couple hundred more or less votes in 2-3 states and Hillary would have won. But that's due to the absurd voting system of the US. Which other developed nation apart of the UK uses Winner-takes-all? As far as I know, nobody, and for good reason, as it only leads to smaller parties and their views getting ignored for the bigger ones. And if neither is what you'd hope to vote, then you're out of luck and have to vote for the lesser evil.

Oh, and that winning by a landslide was months before the election. At that point, she was polling about 10% in front of Trump. But right before the election? Nope, 2-3% were what the national polls were saying, as you can see here, for example:

https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rklCDpOEK78Q/v0

Also, not all polls showed that Clinton would be winning:

https://www.investors.com/politics/trump-lead-widens-to-2-his-biggest-yet-despite-november-surprise-ibdtipp-poll/

Not what CNN was saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzJyuXhC-CA

Also, nothing absurd about the voting system in the United States. Trump and Hillary both knew the rules before the election and it was about the electoral college. If it was about the popular vote, Trump could've won easily because he would've changed his strategy. Trump is pretty much guaranteed to win at this point because the Democrats are a mess right now.

Polls had here winning by 2-4 points and some even had Trump up by a point or two. Hillary won the popular vote so no polls were not that far off.

I think if Biden becomes President he'll tackle climate change. I hope none goes with the current green new deal and Biden and other Democrats go with their own plans cause AOCs green new deal sucks.

Care to explain why you think so?

Well it does too much that need to be adressed in different bills. Like one of the things it include is a guranteed job in a bill about climate change which just comes off as AOC trying to fit a few random policies in her bill so they can get passed. Its alsi impractical in some parts. I support the idea of the bill just don't like how she handled it.

It's my understanding that the details of the Green New Deal resolution haven't been ironed out yet. Isn't it basically just a list of goals at this point, not an actual bill ready to be voted on and enacted into law?