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uran10 said:
I'm going to point out 1 simple thing, if you guys think that leftist posting facts about a candidate is bad, wait till Trump does it cause fun fact, if we have this information, Trump does too and more. So please, we're pointing out how weak your candidate is and why they'll lose. Trump already has all this research and he'll unleash it when the time comes. Bernie is the strongest because he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet like Biden or Hillary but hey, if you guys like sending weak lambs to the slaughter be my guest. Like I said I have a means out, while so many others don't and you're dooming them to this disastrous system.

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think the first thing Trump and the collective GOP will do if Bernie becomes the nominee is weaponize his comments regarding communist regimes as well as his socialist self-labeling to marginalize moderates and Hispanics away from him. 

Also, once again if there were so many Bernie supporters who were worried about sending a lamb to slaughter, where are they? They didn't vote.



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SpokenTruth said:

Yeah, so you completely missed my point.  

Your point was orange man bad.

Nobody ever tells him no

Everybody told Trump no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G87UXIH8Lzo

he has so much money he thinks he can just buy anything.

Trump did not think he could buy the election. He spend half of what SHE spend and repeatedly emphasized that point.



If you're an American centrist you're literally a right winger (center-right at best) by all metrics because our overton window is so skewed to the right now it's ridiculous.

All leftists want is to save the planet, guarantee healthcare as a human right (like every other sane moral country), and give disenfranchised people a voice. But nah that's too scary for American centrists they love the elites and corporations so much so they want them determining laws and policies to enrich themselves and leave the poor to die. But hey! At least you voted for someone who isn't Trump so now you can feel better about yourself and can go back to being apathetic about people suffering under our current socioeconomical system!!!

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Raven said:
uran10 said:
I'm going to point out 1 simple thing, if you guys think that leftist posting facts about a candidate is bad, wait till Trump does it cause fun fact, if we have this information, Trump does too and more. So please, we're pointing out how weak your candidate is and why they'll lose. Trump already has all this research and he'll unleash it when the time comes. Bernie is the strongest because he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet like Biden or Hillary but hey, if you guys like sending weak lambs to the slaughter be my guest. Like I said I have a means out, while so many others don't and you're dooming them to this disastrous system.

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think the first thing Trump and the collective GOP will do if Bernie becomes the nominee is weaponize his comments regarding communist regimes as well as his socialist self-labeling to marginalize moderates and Hispanics away from him. 

Also, once again if there were so many Bernie supporters who were worried about sending a lamb to slaughter, where are they? They didn't vote.

Oh wow, you mean the thing they do to every single democrat anyway? Regardless of how right wing these DINO(democrats in name only) like Biden are, they still call them socialist and communists. So please stop kidding yourself with this nonsensical talking point. Its mute. Your boy Pete literally came out on the debate stage and said this himself lol.

And again its Proven that centrist don't win Presidential races so yes, come November if Biden is the nominee, Trump will easily win re-election. But please go off, its not like this country purposely makes voting difficult and even when you vote have rampant voter suppression and voter fraud to make you feel like voting doesn't matter so yes. Blame the people who are sick and tired and have 0 faith in the system even though they want to change it, that makes all of the sense. You guys have learned literally nothing from 2016



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The case has been proven time and time again and they continue to refuse to let a real leftist go because a real leftist will deliver change and the people in power don't want that but some of you are content being used by these people and continue to feed into the propaganda on their networks that are owned by the same ones in charge aka the 1% We live in an Oligarchy not a Democracy and the faster you realize this the better, but you're too busy saying we can't have healthcare for everyone, and that tuition free college is too much and that saving the planet is too much. Every other developed nation has a universal healthcare system and somehow the great America can't have that. Its sad, its very sad. The main problem too is that even if you're not in America you're still affected by them because they think they're the world police and that they have the right to do whatever the hell they want in your country. Why not think about the people in the middle east affected by our crazy out of control regime? I mean come on now. Wake up people, this is a f**ing class war!



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uran10 said:
Raven said:

You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think the first thing Trump and the collective GOP will do if Bernie becomes the nominee is weaponize his comments regarding communist regimes as well as his socialist self-labeling to marginalize moderates and Hispanics away from him. 

Also, once again if there were so many Bernie supporters who were worried about sending a lamb to slaughter, where are they? They didn't vote.

Oh wow, you mean the thing they do to every single democrat anyway? Regardless of how right wing these DINO(democrats in name only) like Biden are, they still call them socialist and communists. So please stop kidding yourself with this nonsensical talking point. Its mute. Your boy Pete literally came out on the debate stage and said this himself lol.

And again its Proven that centrist don't win Presidential races so yes, come November if Biden is the nominee, Trump will easily win re-election. But please go off, its not like this country purposely makes voting difficult and even when you vote have rampant voter suppression and voter fraud to make you feel like voting doesn't matter so yes. Blame the people who are sick and tired and have 0 faith in the system even though they want to change it, that makes all of the sense. You guys have learned literally nothing from 2016

My boy Pete? He was never my top choice in a candidate. Bernie Sanders has pretty much consistently been near the top in terms of my preferences, but I'm honestly tired of the blame game when Bernie fails to deliver as promised.

The difference between regular Democrats and Bernie is that he will be called a communist with actual sound bites to play to back it up. Do I think the attacks are fair? No. Will they happen and hold some weight because of the actual material they can show and play to support it? Absolutely.

It's proven based on one Presidential race? 2008 was a centrist win, Clinton in 1992 and 1996 was a centrist win. I'm not sure what you're talking about.



I also want to add - if the far-left had compromised just an inch, Elizabeth Warren could have probably cruised with the nomination with progressive ideals, and gotten the suburban + women coalition that utterly shunned Sanders. She would have gotten strong party backing while at it.



When will you realize that what's going on affects us all. The people who Biden is being supported by wont care what happens, regardless of who wins between Biden and Trump nothing changes for them. They'll still get their tax cuts and they'll continue to strangle wealth from the poor. Maybe you're some really wealthy people and things wouldn't fundamentally change for you, but unfortunately not everyone is as well off. Can you handle a bill if you get sick, really sick? Do you know my mom stayed in a hospital a weekend and they tried to charge her 50k. Do you understand how messed up that is? Everyday folk just trying to make a living and support their family, catch some random bug going around go to the ER and have a huge bill to pay. You're saying you don't care about these people.

We've destabilized so many countries, invaded and killed so many innocent people and ruined their lives and you're willing to vote for one of the folks who supported these wars. I can't, I honestly can't. It makes me sick to my stomach. You're an accomplice to literal genocide. We're helping Saudi Arabia commit a Genocide in Yemen! Come on now!

I went to school, I got lucky. I actually made 2k from grants, other people like my significant other have a shit ton of debt. This balloon is about to burst and create another economic disaster. We want kids, we want a house, we want to start a family but debt is killing us as Americans and you're saying you don't care. Are you heartless? Are you Soulless? Do you not understand the gravity of this situation.

Our Healthcare system is so bad that the corona virus would be a full blown disaster over here because people don't want to be billed 3k for testing and because "oh we have to wait for worst symptoms before we can check". Honest to goodness god, all we want is basic human rights. Education, Healthcare, Save the plant and maybe just maybe to stop killing people in foreign countries and helping dictators commit genocide. But we can't have that, its too much. We have to return to half measures that got torn down in less than 4 years of an opposition presidency.

I'm angry right now. I'm not angry because Biden is winning, I'm angry because people aren't taking the time to look around at the world and see what's happening, and even when they do they don't care. No Empathy whatsoever. I want to have children and I want them to have a better life than I do but you want to doom them to a dying planet by supporting Biden.

You're young too, this will affect you, you and I will feel this god spare life. This is literally a fight for our lives!



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Joe Biden doesn't even understand the current political landscape he's in ffs... Either that or he's purposely being dishonest.