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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/15/bernie-sanders/sanders-medicare-all-plan-targets-health-industrys/

Bernie said during a debate that there is 100 billion in profits made per year by the health care industry. That's $100,000,000,000 a year. Even if we assumed that every last person in the USA had health care costs per year, that would still come out to $327 per year in profits, per person, on average. Edit: This is just the profits made from health insurance companies, and pharma. It doesn't include doctor's offices, or hospitals!

The question I want to ask here, is how many people actually use health care in the US per year? I'd like to get this down to how much profit is made on the average patient.

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Trump is a million times worse than the worst Democratic candidate, even Bloomberg or Gabbard. He's a threat to democracy not only in the US but worldwide considering how he likes to be buddies with dictators and how he's morally enabling the far-right from various angles.

That being said, there's one man who will counter Bloomberg's momentum in the Deep South and Florida, which is why I believe he has no path to nomination but a brokered convention.



 

 

 

 

 

tsogud said:

#NeverBloomberg has been trending and rightfully so. It seems something that unites progressives and moderates is their disdain for Bloomberg and his past. I don't want a racist, sexist plutocrat to be the Democratic nominee. Also, he will absolutely get demolished by 45 who would posture to the left of him in many instances like he did with Hillary. 

Democratic elites literally do not care about ordinary people, don't be fooled into thinking they're on the "good" side just because they're Democrats.

And here I thought I started something original when I mentioned that hashtag!

Oh well, it's a good cause. The guy's national polling average is now up to 14.2% as of this writing, mostly at Joe Biden's expense. That support, incidentally, comes disproportionately from African American voters, which is perhaps the most insidious thing of it all.

Biden would be among the worst options the Democrats could go with in this field, IMO, but I'd still take him over Bloomberg any day of the week.

Maybe having Bloomberg on the debate stage this next time will be a blessing in disguise. That should expose him to actual scrutiny on national television for pretty much the first time in this contest. Seriously, with all the advertising he's purchased, essentially all of his media coverage so far has been on his own terms. Maybe not being able to control all the terms for once will change things.



OTBWY said:
Bernie leading in Texas now by 2 points.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.



Jaicee said:
OTBWY said:
Bernie leading in Texas now by 2 points.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.




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OTBWY said:
Jaicee said:

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.

Speaking of Texas and Latinos, how long until Texas turns blue forever and puts an end to Republican presidents? 



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Mnementh said:
numberwang said:

Sanders got clobbered and humiliated by HER last time. Maybe he will fight this time. Warren endorsed HER last time and will endorse Sanders' main opponent again.

I don't know. Warren endorsed the winner, after the winner was decided. And I think it is quite telling, that Warren and Sanders are light on the attacks on each other. Instead the modereates started to fight each other. Too many in this lane, so they fight over who is the king there.

Did you miss the episode where Warren claimed that Bernie said a woman cannot win the presidency?

"I think you called me a liar on national TV"

https://youtu.be/YYyi0jgAnzQ?t=38



numberwang said:
Mnementh said:

I don't know. Warren endorsed the winner, after the winner was decided. And I think it is quite telling, that Warren and Sanders are light on the attacks on each other. Instead the modereates started to fight each other. Too many in this lane, so they fight over who is the king there.

Did you miss the episode where Warren claimed that Bernie said a woman cannot win the presidency?

"I think you called me a liar on national TV"

https://youtu.be/YYyi0jgAnzQ?t=38

To add to this, Warren has joined up with the moderates (cause she is one) and is attacking bernie. Did you miss the episode with the Union as well? She isn't being Light on attacks against Bernie at all. She keeps jabbing and jabbing and jabbing at bernie non stop even teamed up with Joe, klob and the rest.



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Jaicee said:
OTBWY said:
Bernie leading in Texas now by 2 points.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

That's fascinating! There have only been a handful of polls I've seen conducted over voters here in Texas, but most of them have shown Sanders in this same territory of support, at around 25%. However, Biden has traditionally fared better than in this new poll by the Texas Tribune. It would appear that the Biden collapse has begun to reach my home state.

Also notice though: Bloomberg at 10% support in Texas. That tells you something about where the increasingly disaffected Biden supporters are going.

I THINK Bernie Sanders will probably get the most votes here in my particular community...but that would mean getting like 15, 20, or 25 votes.

And this can kill it for the "moderates" like Biden, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg, as they will be stealing each other's votes, keeping each number's down, all while Sanders has little opposition on his side now since Warren has slid down, Yang dropping out, Steyer polling above 3% only in the next 2 states and Gabbard polling way too low in any state.

Cerebralbore101 said:
OTBWY said:

I think since Bernie has the most minority support, the large latino base in Texas will help him greatly. I'd reckon we are in for a surprise and theres no stopping Bernie unless Biden magically saves his collapsing campaign.

Speaking of Texas and Latinos, how long until Texas turns blue forever and puts an end to Republican presidents? 

With his treatment of Latinos, I'm sure those will flock to the democrats, especially if Bernie can win the nomination. With their support and the increasing urbanisation of the state, I think starting 2020 Texas will become a swing state. And if the republicans lose Texas, they also pretty much lose all hope to win an election, as that state is simply too big to compensate.



Come on folks, tossing the "moderate" label on Warren as if it were some insult, even if it were true, it's just lame. She's to the left of probably 80% of the American populace. If you want a candidate that has never attacked anyone else in the race, then Bloomberg is actually the guy for you.

I honestly wish it weren't, considering the awkwardness it causes to party members later in the generals, but that has always been part of the game.