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Cerebralbore101 said:
DarthJarvis said:
Lol, the amount of spin and ignorance in this is majestic.

Refuses to accept facts: Check

Under 100 Posts: Check

Makes Ad Hominem Attacks: Check

Has no legitimate rebuttal: Check

I wonder how long you'll last here?

You might want to reread the posts to see who is attacking who.the Facts are clear and Bernie's team is actually playing damage control right now. They 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
DarthJarvis said:
Lol, the amount of spin and ignorance in this is majestic.

I wonder how long you'll last here?

Not long.

@Thread - Best to just ignore the alt.

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This is pretty funny (obv pro Bernie)






SpokenTruth said:

We are still really early in the season.  Right now it's mostly running on name recognition. The overwhelming majority of people polled do not follow the debates and candidates as we are right now.

We'll get much more meaningful poll data at the end of the year/start of next year when more attention is given by average voters.

SpokenTruth said:

Biden is simply riding on name recognition right now.  It's not that he has actual support as large as these polls show but he has name awareness that large. 

SpokenTruth said:

Poll numbers this early are largely just name recognition and don't have a great record for predicting the final nominee.

I tried to warn Biden as far back as last July. He only polled high so early and for so long because of name recognition.  Once it came down to actual voting....trounced.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

OTBWY said:

This is pretty funny (obv pro Bernie)



Oh, in this thread someone linked Our cartoon president with the post-Iowa episode. This is fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSMthlU_k8



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More voters under 30 than the other candidates combined.
And 39% of people aged 30-39.



Hiku said:

More voters under 30 than the other candidates combined.
And 39% of people aged 30-39.

So we can compare, from 2016 exit polls:

Clinton O'Malley Sanders

18-29 (19%)

16%

1%

83%

30-44 (22%)

32%

0%

66%

45-64 (42%)

45%

0%

54%

65 or over (18%)

54%

0%

45%

Huge drops but proportionally speaking he held on more to younger than older voters, which perhaps showcase how big the not-Clinton vote was in 2016.



 

 

 

 

 

Bofferbrauer2 said:
haxxiy said:

In later polls, the amount of undecided dropped to around 6-8%. At the same time, Pete rose to about 24-25%. So most must have gone to Klobuchar - although Write-ins, Bennet, Deval, minor candidates and withdrawn ones still got over 3% of the vote taken together.

This is probably also the reason why Yang dropped out: He was polling at around 5% and only got 2.8%, showing very slow momentum.

Since February 5th, only 4 out of 24 polls had Buttigieg at 24% or above. That's less than the number of polls showing Sanders at 30% or above... which in turn also exceed the number of polls with Sanders at 24% or 25%.

Just saying you can't cherry pick data to argue Sanders and Buttigieg performed exactly according to expectations. One of them came at the higher end of what polls had predicted, the other at the lower end.

Edit - although, of course, among the overperformers, Klobuchar exceeded them all.



 

 

 

 

 

My candidate Bernie pulling off 1.5 wins despite the huge field and countless smears, you love to see it!

Now onto the Nevada caucuses! My Latin brothers and sisters please don't disappoint!

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OTBWY said:

This is pretty funny (obv pro Bernie)



Yeah I have to agree that Warren's reliance on constantly reminding people that she's a female candidate has hurt her campaign. 34% of female voters in the New Hampshire Democratic primary (as compared with 26% of their male counterparts) told pollsters that nominating a woman would increase Donald Trump's odds of re-election, while only 7% said that nominating a woman would instead increase the odds of a Democratic victory in the fall. Lessons have been learned from Hillary Clinton's defeat. Women in particular recognize that there is no advantage in nominating a woman. To that end, female candidates do better not to go about reminding voters that they're female because that's more often viewed as a strategic problem for them than as a political edge. It's tantamount to advertising a political liability. (Sort of like Trump campaigning on his recent impeachment, as though it were a good thing.)

She's also made a serious error of judgment in pivoting more rightward in general since October. What she's learning the hard way now is that there is, in fact, no constituency for her imaginary third lane in-between progressive and neoliberal politics.

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