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SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

That's only some of the early voting which is 1/4th of the total vote according to cnn.

That's not early voting but an exit poll of Hispanic support.  How do you even get that it's 1/4 of anything?

CA early votes made up 25% of the total vote according to cnn.



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jason1637 said:
tsogud said:

And you don't even question why that is?? Or do you just gulp down whatever info the mainstream media feeds you? Have you no curiosity or drive to figure out what is happening in American politics rn. Or would you rather have the pundits that are paid by the very corporations and industries that Sanders opposes explain how regular Americans and the working class don't like Sanders, despite all the evidence to the contrary?

I rarely follow mainstream news. I'm just looking at the facts. Moderate policies and a return to Obama era policies have had a plurality or majority in most polls and these super tuesday results are showing that.

If you were just looking at the facts then you'd know a Biden nomination isn't going to cut it in the general. The facts suggest that running a centrist against a candidate that can very easily posture to the left of him on many issues like he did with Hillary in 2016 will cost us the presidency again.

Progressive ideas are popular. Nobody actually likes their insurance provider, they like their doctors and hospitals, M4A is popular because it does away with the unpopular aspects of healthcare and guarantees an expanded version of Medicare to everyone. Bernie is the most trusted on many issues but especially when it comes to healthcare.

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SpokenTruth said:

Texas closed hundreds of polling sites in poor, black and Latino communities.  750 since 2013. I wonder what impact that might have?

Oh, that kind of impact.

But yeah, let's argue against early voting, because that is wrong... People have strange priorities.



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SpokenTruth said:

Texas closed hundreds of polling sites in poor, black and Latino communities.  750 since 2013. I wonder what impact that might have?

Oh, that kind of impact.

Blacks vote 4:1 for Biden. Getting their vote down would help Sanders tremendously.



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numberwang said:
SpokenTruth said:

Texas closed hundreds of polling sites in poor, black and Latino communities.  750 since 2013. I wonder what impact that might have?

Oh, that kind of impact.

Blacks vote 4:1 for Biden. Getting their vote down would help Sanders tremendously.

Actually, in all demographic groups age is a much better predictor. Meaning young black are voting for Sanders, older blacks voting for Biden.



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tsogud said:
jason1637 said:

I rarely follow mainstream news. I'm just looking at the facts. Moderate policies and a return to Obama era policies have had a plurality or majority in most polls and these super tuesday results are showing that.

If you were just looking at the facts then you'd know a Biden nomination isn't going to cut it in the general. The facts suggest that running a centrist against a candidate that can very easily posture to the left of him on many issues like he did with Hillary in 2016 will cost us the presidency again.

Progressive ideas are popular. Nobody actually likes their insurance provider, they like their doctors and hospitals, M4A is popular because it does away with the unpopular aspects of healthcare and guarantees an expanded version of Medicare to everyone. Bernie is the most trusted on many issues but especially when it comes to healthcare.

Biden will do much better than Hillary in the general.

Hillary won the popular votes but couldn't bring out certain demographics in certain states to win.

This primary shows that Biden has been able to bring out Obama era African American support while not spending a lot. This will help him win Michigan and puts Georgia on the table. He's also been doing incredibly well in the suburbs putting PA, and FL on the table. Biden also has the ability to appeal towards conservative moderates putting WI, and possibly IA, and Ohio on the table.

Hillary is a snake and people dont like her. People know Biden is genuine and actually like him.

Electorally it's easy to make a case for Biden in comparison to Hillary.

Biden is the only candidate that has helped got a healthcare policy passed. People might not like their provider but people still like choices and options. Like Bernie Biden has Medicare for those that want it but if you want to keep what you have now you can. Most of the Democratic party can get behind Bidens plan and it's possible it can actually pass while Bernies plan not so much. Ya'll don't have to like Biden but don't act like he's not running on policies that you agree with.



SpokenTruth said:
numberwang said:

Blacks vote 4:1 for Biden. Getting their vote down would help Sanders tremendously.

Texas isn't SC or NC.

Further, Texas is just 11.9% African American but is 38.3% Hispanic.

Biden has 60% of Black support in Texas and Bernie 17%. Latinos are 45% to 24% for Sanders. 

Blacks made up 21% of the vote and Latinos 31%.

CNN literally showed these results as I read your reply lol.



SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

Biden has 60% of Black support in Texas and Bernie 17%. Latinos are 45% to 24% for Sanders. 

Blacks made up 21% of the vote and Latinos 31%.

CNN literally showed these results as I read your reply lol.

I'd like to know which exit poll CNN used.  Was this rural or urban?

But my point remains.  Texas has way more Latino population than Black population.

They were talking about the whole state of Texas.

Treu Texas does have more Latino voters but Biden has just under 1/4th of the Latino vote and 60% of the Black vote that it might even out.