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Booker just dropped out of the race: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/cory-booker-ends-presidential-race/index.html



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Seems like Warren is upset Bernie dared to point out the differences between him and her. It reminds of Hillary and how she hasn't stopped complaining about how Bernie hurt her candidacy by pointing out her deficiencies.



Now Warren's camp whining about Bernie and his supporters with an unsubstantiated story that his volunteers claimed "Warren appeals to rich, affluent white people" or something, along with some vague hearsay about Bernie "supposedly" saying in a private conversation that Warren can't win b/c she's a woman (despite him on record saying the exact opposite).

I swear to god, all these Neolib types have is vague "guilt by association" bs, unverified conspiracies, and other baseless smears. Never anything of substance. Never anything regarding the actual issues. Perhaps that's b/c they can't win on the real issues? And how funny that these Bernie smears are coming directly off the heels of him surging in the polls over Warren..

I'm sick of these corporatists like Warren, Pete, Biden, etc acting like people owe them something, rather than having to EARN their votes.



DarthMetalliCube said:
Now Warren's camp whining about Bernie and his supporters with an unsubstantiated story that his volunteers claimed "Warren appeals to rich, affluent white people" or something, along with some vague hearsay about Bernie "supposedly" saying in a private conversation that Warren can't win b/c she's a woman (despite him on record saying the exact opposite).

I swear to god, all these Neolib types have is vague "guilt by association" bs, unverified conspiracies, and other baseless smears. Never anything of substance. Never anything regarding the actual issues. Perhaps that's b/c they can't win on the real issues? And how funny that these Bernie smears are coming directly off the heels of him surging in the polls over Warren..

I'm sick of these corporatists like Warren, Pete, Biden, etc acting like people owe them something, rather than having to EARN their votes.

As a Volunteer, Its a blatant lie, we're strictly told not to do what they said. But the sad part is, its true that's who she appeals to, and she's smearing bernie like hell even though, in 2016 he encouraged her to run and her refusal is why he ran. I keep telling people that Warren aint progressive and aint an ally but people keep saying I'm just cynical etc. Its funny to me, actually no, its hilarious cause I saw this coming from miles away and I've been pointing out all the warning signs. Oh well, this is her desperate attempt to stay relevant and it will fail, its already backfiring cause no one believes her. She was already done, but now she's really done.

All I'm gonna say now is, I called it :D



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That's a funny statement coming from someone who has been smearing Warren non-stop for months.



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uran10 said:
DarthMetalliCube said:
Now Warren's camp whining about Bernie and his supporters with an unsubstantiated story that his volunteers claimed "Warren appeals to rich, affluent white people" or something, along with some vague hearsay about Bernie "supposedly" saying in a private conversation that Warren can't win b/c she's a woman (despite him on record saying the exact opposite).

I swear to god, all these Neolib types have is vague "guilt by association" bs, unverified conspiracies, and other baseless smears. Never anything of substance. Never anything regarding the actual issues. Perhaps that's b/c they can't win on the real issues? And how funny that these Bernie smears are coming directly off the heels of him surging in the polls over Warren..

I'm sick of these corporatists like Warren, Pete, Biden, etc acting like people owe them something, rather than having to EARN their votes.

As a Volunteer, Its a blatant lie, we're strictly told not to do what they said. But the sad part is, its true that's who she appeals to, and she's smearing bernie like hell even though, in 2016 he encouraged her to run and her refusal is why he ran. I keep telling people that Warren aint progressive and aint an ally but people keep saying I'm just cynical etc. Its funny to me, actually no, its hilarious cause I saw this coming from miles away and I've been pointing out all the warning signs. Oh well, this is her desperate attempt to stay relevant and it will fail, its already backfiring cause no one believes her. She was already done, but now she's really done.

All I'm gonna say now is, I called it :D

I was on the fence about Warren, but she's revealing more of her true colors I'd say.. Again, I liked how she seemed to be calling out both Wallstreet and Big Tech, and she seemed to have some similarities to Bernie at least. But between falsely pushing the Native American thing, the fact that she was a Republican (and not as in "Republican friendly" or whatever like some try to claim Tulsi is, but ACTUALLY Republican), supporting Hilary over Bernie in '16, and now this bush league attempt to defame or smear.. there are definitely some mounting trust issues.



DarthMetalliCube said:
Now Warren's camp whining about Bernie and his supporters with an unsubstantiated story that his volunteers claimed "Warren appeals to rich, affluent white people" or something, along with some vague hearsay about Bernie "supposedly" saying in a private conversation that Warren can't win b/c she's a woman (despite him on record saying the exact opposite).

I swear to god, all these Neolib types have is vague "guilt by association" bs, unverified conspiracies, and other baseless smears. Never anything of substance. Never anything regarding the actual issues. Perhaps that's b/c they can't win on the real issues? And how funny that these Bernie smears are coming directly off the heels of him surging in the polls over Warren..

I'm sick of these corporatists like Warren, Pete, Biden, etc acting like people owe them something, rather than having to EARN their votes.

The script that was reported on is proven to be fake, we never received it. As Uran said we volunteers have to agree to a code of conduct and it was explicitly expressed (to my group anyway) to not attack other candidates, the conversations should stay centered around policy and enthusiasm for change.

I'm disappointed Warren so quickly threw fuel to the fire here on an unproven claim especially when she refused to talk about Hunter Biden until she had " time to think about it" or when it took her months to issue a statement on Standing Rock.

Liz and Bernie shouldn't dirty their hands and concern themselves with ridiculous claims/smears about each other, it only helps the corporatists Biden and Pete.



 

Moren said:
That's a funny statement coming from someone who has been smearing Warren non-stop for months.

Please point out the smears. Actually better question, do you know what a smear is? Cause if you did you'd know pointing out facts about a candidate and pointing out facts about their records isn't smearing. But Hey, I'll wait to see the smears against Warren I said cause last I checked, everything I've said about Warren was factual and she's proving my point even more now. :)



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tsogud said:
DarthMetalliCube said:
Now Warren's camp whining about Bernie and his supporters with an unsubstantiated story that his volunteers claimed "Warren appeals to rich, affluent white people" or something, along with some vague hearsay about Bernie "supposedly" saying in a private conversation that Warren can't win b/c she's a woman (despite him on record saying the exact opposite).

I swear to god, all these Neolib types have is vague "guilt by association" bs, unverified conspiracies, and other baseless smears. Never anything of substance. Never anything regarding the actual issues. Perhaps that's b/c they can't win on the real issues? And how funny that these Bernie smears are coming directly off the heels of him surging in the polls over Warren..

I'm sick of these corporatists like Warren, Pete, Biden, etc acting like people owe them something, rather than having to EARN their votes.

The script that was reported on is proven to be fake, we never received it. As Uran said we volunteers have to agree to a code of conduct and it was explicitly expressed (to my group anyway) to not attack other candidates, the conversations should stay centered around policy and enthusiasm for change.

I'm disappointed Warren so quickly threw fuel to the fire here on an unproven claim especially when she refused to talk about Hunter Biden until she had " time to think about it" or when it took her months to issue a statement on Standing Rock.

Liz and Bernie shouldn't dirty their hands and concern themselves with ridiculous claims/smears about each other, it only helps the corporatists Biden and Pete.

Wow.. That's just despicable. This is so obviously a fabricated smear campaign. I'm so done with these establishment types. I just have zero reason to trust them anymore. The shameless lies and underhanded stuff they try to pull just to maintain the status quo, it just baffles me. As a Tulsi guy primarily I can empathize quite a bit heh.



Liz is a snake, this isn't a smear, it's calling a spade a spade.

Bernie was wrong for not attacking her and actively exposing her during the debates. He's been too nice towards Pocahontas and crooked Hillary. But it's fine, she's fizzling out regardless, her next move will be endorsing Biden.

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