Also, not a chance in hell Booker will make it to the December debate. This was his swan song.

Gabbard, Yang, and (ugh) Steyer are all likely to make it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dHSFg0jrAeIAqDlFZqAu-5N2x-wk8PT-6H4DbCendUM/edit#gid=1424726684

Yang needs one more poll, which he *will* get. Gabbard needs one poll and a few donors, it should be not difficult. I'm hoping Steyer has maxed out and he won't be getting enough donors, but he's already reached the polling requirements.

I'm just gonna point something out since I saw something and it annoys me a bit. M4A is synonymous was single payer. It is a single payer system and has always been marketed as that until people like Pete, and Kamala and now Warren have come around and tried to water it down and have hurt the branding that is Medicare for all. So I'm going to make this statement clear. Medicare For All is Single Payer. That's it. It's not a public option, and anyone using the name Medicare for All for a public option is no friend to universal healthcare.

Tulsi's Clarification on Healthcare (Bernie's is better, but this is BETTER THAN A PUBLIC OPTION)

Boring debate overall, the moderators were meh. I think the candidates are just biding their time until it gets closer to February to really start hashing out their differences.

Gotta say, although I don't really like Gabbard all that much, she really isn't afraid to call out other people on their bs. With Buttigieg, he actually did say that about Mexico but straight up lied about it on the debate stage. I just don't get why Tulsi would bring up just that point against him tho especially when Pete has faked endorsements from prominent people in the black community, said his supporters of his plan for black America were black when they were actually white, and used a stock photo of a Kenyan women for his campaign. Those  things reveal just how much Pete isn't genuine and really doesn't care about the real issues poc face and is just trying to use us to get nominated. When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

She went at him that way because she's positioning herself as the foreign policy candidate cause she is.However, the one who you should be more mad at for not going in on Pete for this is Kamala.They literally set her up for it and she decided to give him a pass. Its shameful and disgusting that no one called him out on this. and its also shameful no one called out Warren for pivoting to Pete's plan. Honestly, Bernie disappoints me at these debates, and he was physically frustrated at the moderators calling on Warren for M4A that he hit his podium. Honestly... I couldn't sit down through it, too much lies are getting through and you get nothing out of these debates. We need good moderators! Stop the impeachment talk, NO ONE CARES! The American people want healthcare, they want good jobs, they're worried about climate change etc. They Know donald is corrupt but they don't care, they just want representation. How is this so hard to understand?

Quick edit: I missed an important point about Pete. The stock photo isn't the really bad part about it, its his "endorsements" for his plan. He sent them an opt out email and then touted it as prominent african americans endorsing him/ his plan when one of them is bernie's co-chair for the state and all 3 of them were shocked to see it, on top of that the of 400 african american's that "endorsed" his plan turns out it was close to half of them being white people. Pete is a disgusting individual and Corporate media giving him the free pass on this is utterly disgusting!

I thoroughly refuted your entire argument in that rambly 1500 word nonsensical post.

Whether or not you care about the polls is not relevant, it is the best indicator of opinion statistics available - the fact that you simply don't accept it because it's inconvenient for your fanboy. Your post is nothing but a bunch of bizarre spins, double standards, and lies, but mostly it was just Trumpist-style foolishness. The vast majority of it wasn't even supporting your argument, it was just a lot of random concern trolling.

As much as I like Booker, I think it's been clear for a long time that there are only four relevant names: Sanders, Warren, Biden, and a distant Buttigieg.

I am sure he'll do better next time once he has had some time to sink in. He's perhaps the most liked person of the bunch often polling as the one who voters find least objectionable.

I'll wait for you to point out the lies and double standards in the post. I've listed policies, you've gone on to attack me. Bring me your proof like i keep asking you to. You cant blanket statement this like you're trying to do. I asked a bunch of policy questions regarding what Warren has said and done and asked you to fact check these things, instead you went on to blanket the statements without bringing any proof then proceeded to attack me. Put up or well you know the rest.

Yeah I agree, that was a big missed opportunity for Kamala. Idk what she was thinking, he would've had no legitimate answer for it too. The reason I'm a little dumbfounded Tulsi didn't do it is because she was already going after him, might as well go all the way or at least pick up Kamala's fumble. It's just insane that Pete isn't scrutinized over this, you could safely bet that if it was Warren or Sanders or hell even Biden that did that, it would be everywhere.

I'm sure you've already seen this but here's Krystal Ball's and Saagar Enjeti's take on the situation and I must say I agree with them on this:

Since people like polls in this thread.