Mnementh said:
Jumpin said:
He's pretty much toast. The only thing that can go wrong is if the Bernie or Bust cult of personality types ramp up their propaganda campaign against the left again.
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As was shown with actual data in the thread before, Clinton supporters are way more likely to vote Republican than Sanders supporters. So we better hope Clinton isn't meddling this cycle and hands it to Trump - again.
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What that post showed was a poll suggesting a number of people who voted Clinton over Obama in the primaries didn’t vote Democratic later. It didn’t show who these voters were or what states these voters were from. For all we know these were Conservatives registering to vote in the Democratic primaries simply to make sure a mixed-ethnicity guy didn’t get voted in. There was no “Clinton or Bust” campaign from her supporters in 2008 or 2016, but there was a massive “Bernie or Bust” campaign in 2016 where Bernie Sanders supporters actively stated that they will not vote for the Democratic Party unless Bernie Sanders wins. The data shows a large impact on the Democratic voting states, showing with their numbers alone, the number of Bernie Sanders voters alone were enough to make the difference to give those states to the Republicans. But the thing of key importance was the large numbers of others they would have influenced. Through 2015 and 2016 there was an obscenely large social media campaign against Hillary Clinton by Bernie Sanders fans. Some of his fan sites, I can specifically remember TYT (primarily from their resident failed comedian, Jimmy Dore) actively encouraging leftist voters not to vote for the Democratic Party in the election, saying it would be better if the Republicans won. And these sorts of sites aren’t small, back in 2016, TYT alone had millions of viewers.
Unless you can demonstrate that there is some kind of Clinton or bust campaign just waiting to occur, and that “Clinton Meddling” is somehow going to trigger it, then you’re more or less just posting an irrelevant red herring (and, quite frankly, a ridiculous one).
The possibility of a Bernie or Bust 2020 is quite real. There are already people (even in these forums) posting conspiracy theories, character assassinations, and lies about policy against Elizabeth Warren in this case. It’s bizarre, because these Sanders fan sites attack Elizabeth Warren far more than Biden, some of them even more so than they do Trump.