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Mnementh said:
uran10 said:

Found this wonderful thing:

That is a strong speech. Thanks for sharing.

Its from his rally in NY I was there live when she was going off, but the receipts added makes it all the more sweeter



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Tim Ryan dropped out: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tim-ryan-becomes-2020s-latest-also-ran/

And Amy Klobuchar made the next debate: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/klobuchar-is-the-ninth-candidate-to-make-the-november-debate/



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the-pi-guy said:
Mnementh said:

I think it is somehow sad, that the talking point of right-wing about alleged russian influence on the candidates that coincidentally are opposed to oneself has now become something in the democratic party. Shows how much right-wingers are now present at the core of the democratic party. And, not to forget, never ever present any proof, evidence or whatever. Just claim the connection. Nobody needs any evidence, we are in the age of Trump.

Don't need to be influenced by Russia to be an asset for Russia.  Don't need to be any way involved with Russia to be an asset to them.  

Hillary Clinton could be considered a Russian asset by her dividing the party.  

Remember when it comes it to election day, that any vote for a third party benefits Russia.  We need someone in office who will push against Russian or foreign influences.  

I feel like this is just ridiculous backpedaling by primarily Neolib types now that the majority of people and even like half the Democratic candidates are calling out this baseless rhetoric about candidates, media, people, etc being "Russian plants." It's a moving of the goalposts that covers themselves since they can never technically be "disproven."

Basically it's empty, meaningless accusations meant to discredit people who challenge the Neolib Democratic party orthodoxy. I mean litterally anyone can make any sort of ambiguous argument that anyone can technically be a "Russian asset." With this mentality, nothing will ever change within the Democratic party b/c people will be afraid to rock the boat and make any positive change. Change that I'd much like to see happen, and that I believe NEEDS to happen if they want to win back the majority of Americans and defeat Trump. Otherwise it'll be business as usual..

I just wish the Dems would get back to real issues instead of bogus conspiracy theories and baseless mudslinging..

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coolbeans said:
Mnementh said:

Tim Ryan dropped out: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tim-ryan-becomes-2020s-latest-also-ran/

And Amy Klobuchar made the next debate: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/klobuchar-is-the-ninth-candidate-to-make-the-november-debate/

This may be the first DNC candidate I've never heard of before this comment. lol

He was the guy Bernie hit with the "I wrote the damn bill"



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coolbeans said:
Mnementh said:

Tim Ryan dropped out: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tim-ryan-becomes-2020s-latest-also-ran/

And Amy Klobuchar made the next debate: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/klobuchar-is-the-ninth-candidate-to-make-the-november-debate/

This may be the first DNC candidate I've never heard of before this comment. lol

I've only ever heard of him because Tulsi wrecked him in a brief foreign policy debate XD



 

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My lord.. The comments to some of the Tulsi posts on Twitter are pure cancer. (Sorry but I have to vent somewhere and if I bring up politics to my family my mother just ends up going on a 10 minute Trump rant even if if has nothing to do with him.. and I don't really feel comfortable bringing up this shit to friends, so I have to vent somewhere :P)

I try to just remind myself that no matter who the candidate is, most politicians tend to have a lot of haters, whose comments are always listed at or near the top for whatever reason so it just LOOKS like a lot at first glance. I've seen ppl like Biden, Kalama, Bernie, Hillary, etc comments get bombarded with quite a lot of hate too. But man, it sure seems like Gabbard gets the most - and the most aggravating thing is at least with these other candidates like 70% tends to be legitimate policy-based criticisms whereas with her it's like 70% idiotic conspiracy theories and misinformation. I've seen very few real critiques in terms of her policies, ideals, etc..

I mean with someone like Trump obviously I get a good chunk of the hatred. But a progressive woman from Hawaii, who's nothing but kind, diplomatic, and sensible? It truly baffles me where all this hate comes from. Sometimes I really feel like I'm living in the twilight zone.

I think maybe it's just the perfect storm combo of being fairly moderate on the left-right paradigm, but also anti-establishment, and progressive in a lot of ways. This means you're going to get hate from the Neolib-centrist/establishment Dem camps, Authoritarians, many more extreme right-wingers, and MAGA types. That's a shitload of people.

I have to just stop looking at those comments I think lol.



 

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On first glance this TED-talk has not much to do with the democratic primaries, but if I think about what is talked abut, it clearly illustrates the different approaches of the candidates in the race. So give it a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th3KE_H27bs



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Looks like Bernie is going full-blow legalization of weed. Dude is winning me back more all the time :D



 

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Undecided 2020 general electorate voters favor Biden and Yang compared to any other Democrats.

https://businessinsider.com/undecided-general-election-voters-prefer-biden-yang-2020-democrats-2019-10