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Why Warren > Bernie by her supporters with Mike's Commentary. Just pay attention to the "policy" stated vs those who are mimicking Media talking points about electability or those who are simply saying "its a woman's time".



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coolbeans said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/nyregion/de-blasio-2020-drops-out.html

Oh god...that means he's back to working for NY full-time.

first of the 3 in the B-Team to drop out with Blasio, I now wait for Bennet and Bullock. Sestak, Ryan and Messam will also probably drop out soon.



uran10 said:

Why Warren > Bernie by her supporters with Mike's Commentary. Just pay attention to the "policy" stated vs those who are mimicking Media talking points about electability or those who are simply saying "its a woman's time".

Well, in the beginnign Mike is saying what the polls confirm: that Warren and Sanders actually have quite a different base. And the second part matches an analysis I read on 538 some time ago, that Warren and Harris have a lot of overlap in the voter base, and so do Biden and Sanders. This all means: the best chance to take down Biden is the team Sanders+Warren. They each cover different bases and together they can hinder Biden to get a majority at the convention. I strongly believe they will put together their electors, if they can get a majority this way. Warren and Sanders supporters shouldn't attack each other, as they don't actually steal voters from each other. Instead they should focus on taking down Biden as a team.



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uran10 said:

Why Warren > Bernie by her supporters with Mike's Commentary. Just pay attention to the "policy" stated vs those who are mimicking Media talking points about electability or those who are simply saying "its a woman's time".

Well, in the beginnign Mike is saying what the polls confirm: that Warren and Sanders actually have quite a different base. And the second part matches an analysis I read on 538 some time ago, that Warren and Harris have a lot of overlap in the voter base, and so do Biden and Sanders. This all means: the best chance to take down Biden is the team Sanders+Warren. They each cover different bases and together they can hinder Biden to get a majority at the convention. I strongly believe they will put together their electors, if they can get a majority this way. Warren and Sanders supporters shouldn't attack each other, as they don't actually steal voters from each other. Instead they should focus on taking down Biden as a team.

I get that, but again it comes down to trust. Warren is running around with elites and having meetings with clinton and is open to big donors in the general. Regardless of Biden being the bigger threat right now, and I'm positive he'll fall off, she's still a threat imo. I do not see her fighting for the policies that bernie would and her record also points to that. That's where it stands for me. I personally can't wrap my mind around how someone goes for the middle ground in warren without the media's hate boner for bernie being a cause such as blaming him for hillary's loss, or the lie about 2016 being super divisive when Obama v Hillary was way worse! ID Politics and not being as far to the left I get, but one of those reasons imo is stupid and the other is ideology . Like Mike Put it, she's not clinton but she's not bernie and she's just not trust worthy to me. That's why I'm not for a team up because I'm about 90% sure she'll stab bernie in the back. 2016 is all the evidence I need for that.



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Oooof.

I hope YouTube does not start recommending videos like that to me. The cringe level made my ears bleed.



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At this point it may seem like beating a dead horse, but here's an article on Warren that says almost everything I want to but better, the only thing missing is her pro-war voting record: https://ghionjournal.com/examining-elizabeth-warrens-political-identity-is-she-really-a-rose/



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At this point it may seem like beating a dead horse, but here's a video of Gabbard's questionable support for bigotry and her ties with shitty people.
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1175119355333332992?s=19
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1175122390629539840?s=19
Someone would really need to hold the same questionable values in order not to be appalled by this shit.



Sen. Elizabeth Warren and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will headline at a big-ticket DNC fundraising event in D.C. on Oct. 16th and 17th.

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/09/20/elizabeth-warren-dnc-fundraiser-1506567

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morenoingrato said:
At this point it may seem like beating a dead horse, but here's a video of Gabbard's questionable support for bigotry and her ties with shitty people.
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1175119355333332992?s=19
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1175122390629539840?s=19
Someone would really need to hold the same questionable values in order not to be appalled by this shit.

Read that one reply. Like I said, Tulsi get's smeared the hardest out of all the candidates.



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Seems the current goal of the thread is to collect the best shit-talk about each candidate. This feels eerily like the republican nomination last time around. And we all know who was the result of that…



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