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I legit don't understand why Tulsi would get a following.

Sanders is also anti-war, and emphasizes going after the Arms and Defense industry, and spending the money in America instead.

Unlike Gabbard, he has ethics, and morals, and compassion, and doesn't repeat talking politics points from RT.

If Tulsi stood a chance at beating Bernie you can bet they'd throw out "ESTABLISHMENT PICK".

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So I've been looking at Bernie's housing plan some more: https://berniesanders.com/issues/housing-all/

In addition to all the new affordable and mixed income housing it builds, here's a few other interesting points:
1. Protection for renters: The plan caps rent increases to the higher of 3% or 1.5 times the Consumer Price Index, with waivers only available if landlords can demonstrate an investment in the property that improves the living conditions accordingly. This is a national cap but states and cities can pass stronger ones if they like. The plan also requires "just-cause" for evictions, so that landlords can't evict someone arbitrarily or vindictively. A bunch of other stuff for renters as well but I thought these were the most interesting points.

2. Fighting against gentrification: The plan has some measures to combat gentrification, mostly summed up as removing exclusionary and restricive zoning laws and replace them with laws designed to promote the integration of communities across race, socioeconomic status, etc., as determined by a new office in the Department of Housing and Urban Development that works directly with the affected cities. The funding for the housing in the bill is actually contingent upon whether the projects will actually produce this integration, as well as upon public transportation access, so as to reduce congestion in cities. In addition to the zoning technique, the plan also fights gentrification by putting a 25% tax on properties sold within 5 years of purchase with no owner in them, dubbed the House Flipping Tax, a 2% Empty House Tax on any owned properties that are vacant (to incentivize more properties being put on the market), and "circuit breakers" on property taxes that freeze the property taxes as the property values in a gentrifying neighborhoods rise (to prevent long-time residents from getting priced out of their own home over property tax).

3. Helping First-time Homebuyers: Since millions of people now feel like they'll never be able to afford to own a home (myself included), the plan includes funding for a first-time homebuyers assistance program, to the tune of $8 billion dollars spread across the HUD (for urban homebuyers) and the USDA (for rural homebuyers).

4. Other Neat Stuff: The plan makes data on evictions, rent increases, and safety violations available to the public for large landlords. It regulates mortgages to prevent them from being mass sold to vulture funds, increases enforcement of consumer protections against predatory loan sharks, and assists those who are still struggling with mortgages as a result of the 2008 crash. Federal funding for projects under the bill prioritizes those projects that have walkable communities and that reduce urban sprawl, to create more efficient and livable cities. Oh, and the first 25,000 affordable housing units under the plan will be set aside exclusively for homeless people.

So yeah, it's not just a "Housing For All" bill, it's a "Make Housing Easier And Better For Everyone" bill.



morenoingrato said:
HylianSwordsman said:

I was wondering how old you were that you would say something that nuts. Then I checked your profile. Sure enough, you're in your 20s, but damn, the thread's biggest Biden supporter is not even American. Why do you want another country to have a centrist so badly? The polls show that Biden isn't the only one who can beat Trump, so that can't be your reason for supporting him, so you must actually be a neoliberal. A neoliberal in freaking Brazil.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa. I take offense to this. I'm the thread's biggest Biden supporter.

Regardless, it's a pretty cheap thing to go after him personally. For all you know, he emigrated.

To be clear, people from other countries are welcome to participate in the thread. We have quite a few of them here actually, and they're all quite outspoken and contribute a lot to the discussion. I just found it really ironic, because he's previously said he mostly just wants to beat Trump, but that narrative is weakening, so I figured he must be a Brazilian neoliberal, but neoliberals in Brazil are...not in the best place now. They're the establishment, they're notoriously corrupt, and the people's frustration with them has now led Brazil to be run by their own wannabe dictator, and as far as I'm concerned, he's worse than Trump. The parallels to US politics are interesting, and seeing what I would guess to be an average neoliberal voter advocating for a candidate in the US like their failed candidates in Brazil, I just find it ironic. Unlike the US, Brazil's Trump won in a landslide. Their people are that frustrated.



morenoingrato said:

I legit don't understand why Tulsi would get a following.

Sanders is also anti-war, and emphasizes going after the Arms and Defense industry, and spending the money in America instead.

Unlike Gabbard, he has ethics, and morals, and compassion, and doesn't repeat talking politics points from RT.

If Tulsi stood a chance at beating Bernie you can bet they'd throw out "ESTABLISHMENT PICK".

Nope, we would not. Tulsi does stand a chance to beat bernie and she has a following because she stood up for bernie last time as well as she does what he doesn't. She calls out the establishment in a "dgaf" way. She says 2016 was rigged while bernie pretends it wasn't or just waffles around it. She calls out why they're going to war, and she calls out "allies" like saudi and isreal. She's got an election integrity bill and most importantly, she's the only presidential candidate who didn't fall for Russia Gate in anyway. She's not my #1, and the fact is she gets even more fight down than bernie gets from the establishment.

Also, its easy to see the establishment pick. They get wall to wall positive coverage from corporate media. They switched around from beto, to Kamala, to Biden and now its Warren.

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Okay, last one for tonight. Bernie got a million individual donors. As in, 1 MILLION separate people donated to his campaign. That's more than Trump, and he only has maybe a quarter of the Democratic voters behind him, to Trump's having essentially 100% of the Republican voters. He's the only candidate to reach this milestone in 2020, and he reached it faster than he did in 2015 when it was just him and Clinton.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/09/19/teachers-and-walmart-workers-top-list-sanders-campaign-hits-1-million-individual



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HylianSwordsman said:

So yeah, it's not just a "Housing For All" bill, it's a "Make Housing Easier And Better For Everyone" bill.

Bernie's platform is just amazing.  

Working on improving people's lives in every way that one can reasonably think of.  It'd be massive if even a tenth of his platform got implemented.  

Unfortunately there's an uphill battle against people who think helping out your neighbor is socialism.



morenoingrato said:

I legit don't understand why Tulsi would get a following.

I legit don't understand why Biden would get a following. But he does. So I just have to accept, that people have different priorities and different views on the available information.



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HylianSwordsman said:
morenoingrato said:

Whoa whoa whoa whoa. I take offense to this. I'm the thread's biggest Biden supporter.

Regardless, it's a pretty cheap thing to go after him personally. For all you know, he emigrated.

To be clear, people from other countries are welcome to participate in the thread. We have quite a few of them here actually, and they're all quite outspoken and contribute a lot to the discussion. I just found it really ironic, because he's previously said he mostly just wants to beat Trump, but that narrative is weakening, so I figured he must be a Brazilian neoliberal, but neoliberals in Brazil are...not in the best place now. They're the establishment, they're notoriously corrupt, and the people's frustration with them has now led Brazil to be run by their own wannabe dictator, and as far as I'm concerned, he's worse than Trump. The parallels to US politics are interesting, and seeing what I would guess to be an average neoliberal voter advocating for a candidate in the US like their failed candidates in Brazil, I just find it ironic. Unlike the US, Brazil's Trump won in a landslide. Their people are that frustrated.

Well, in Brazil Temer and Jato did everything to bring down Lula da Silva and Dilma Rousseff. In the end nobody looked acceptable anymore.



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Two articles I think are share-worthy:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/elizabeth-warren-makes-her-bid-for-history.html

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/theres-a-better-case-for-a-top-2-than-a-top-3/



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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/nyregion/de-blasio-2020-drops-out.html

Oh god...that means he's back to working for NY full-time.



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