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Forums - General Discussion - "Leaving Neverland": Do you think Michael Jackson is Innocent?

 

Thriller and Invincible or Bad and Dangerous

Good guy, wrongly accused 55 51.89%
 
Talented Bad guy 28 26.42%
 
A little of both. 23 21.70%
 
Total:106
PortisheadBiscuit on 04 December 2019
  numberwang said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

So your suggesting someone who's been castrated would still have sexual desires for children? The two conspiracy theories don't go together.

We are not talking about a surgical procedure here but some misused pills without medical supervision. I don't know how precisely this affected his libido but we can agree that it furthered his alienation from healthy sexuality.

You're making bold claims without any evidence other than hearsay. What is 'healthy sexuality'? 



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numberwang on 04 December 2019
PortisheadBiscuit said:
  numberwang said:

We are not talking about a surgical procedure here but some misused pills without medical supervision. I don't know how precisely this affected his libido but we can agree that it furthered his alienation from healthy sexuality.

You're making bold claims without any evidence other than hearsay. What is 'healthy sexuality'? 

Evidence is the testimony from MJ’s personal doctor, cardiologist Conrad Murray. He gave specific details how this was done.

https://www.amazon.com/This-Secret-Conrad-Michael-Jackson-ebook/dp/B01ILI40SU

Do I have to spell out how MJ behavior was not healthy sexuality?

I am very skeptical that one can train a vice to remain at that high level after puberty. I never heard of such a training before. Why did they surgically create castratos in the past if you can just train your voice?



aiwass on 04 December 2019
numberwang said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

You're making bold claims without any evidence other than hearsay. What is 'healthy sexuality'? 

I am very skeptical that one can train a vice to remain at that high level after puberty. I never heard of such a training before. Why did they surgically create castratos in the past if you can just train your voice?

Did you even listen to the videos? I'd say those qualify as average male vocal pitch.



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PortisheadBiscuit on 04 December 2019
numberwang said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

You're making bold claims without any evidence other than hearsay. What is 'healthy sexuality'? 

Evidence is the testimony from MJ’s personal doctor, cardiologist Conrad Murray. He gave specific details how this was done.

https://www.amazon.com/This-Secret-Conrad-Michael-Jackson-ebook/dp/B01ILI40SU

Do I have to spell out how MJ behavior was not healthy sexuality?

I am very skeptical that one can train a vice to remain at that high level after puberty. I never heard of such a training before. Why did they surgically create castratos in the past if you can just train your voice?

Conrad Murray?? The 'Doctor' who was administering the drugs that ultimately killed Michael?? Yeah, so credible..

What behavior are you referring to? His on stage persona? He was eclectic and flamboyant, as are many entertainers. Not sure how that correlates to 'healthy sexuality'...  Any of the other bizarre behaviors he exhibited (plastic surgery, hyperbaric chambers, peter pan syndrome etc) are unrelated to sexuality. 



numberwang on 04 December 2019
PortisheadBiscuit said:
numberwang said:

Evidence is the testimony from MJ’s personal doctor, cardiologist Conrad Murray. He gave specific details how this was done.

https://www.amazon.com/This-Secret-Conrad-Michael-Jackson-ebook/dp/B01ILI40SU

Do I have to spell out how MJ behavior was not healthy sexuality?

I am very skeptical that one can train a vice to remain at that high level after puberty. I never heard of such a training before. Why did they surgically create castratos in the past if you can just train your voice?

Conrad Murray?? The 'Doctor' who was administering the drugs that ultimately killed Michael?? Yeah, so credible..

Yes, that shows how intimately CM was involved in MJ's personal life. It is irrelevant to the case that CM was unable to save MJ's life in that night. Name another person who is more knowledgeable about that topic than MJ's long running personal doctor.



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PortisheadBiscuit on 05 December 2019
numberwang said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Conrad Murray?? The 'Doctor' who was administering the drugs that ultimately killed Michael?? Yeah, so credible..

Yes, that shows how intimately CM was involved in MJ's personal life. It is irrelevant to the case that CM was unable to save MJ's life in that night. Name another person who is more knowledgeable about that topic than MJ's long running personal doctor.

He was not MJ's long running personal doctor, he was hired by AEG to accompany Jackson on his This Is It tour. They only met in 2006 when Murray treated one of Jackson's children. Not sure where this long-term personal doctor came from...