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"Leaving Neverland": Do you think Michael Jackson is Innocent?

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I feel like if those boys were little girls nobody would doubt them.....



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I do really believe he is innocent about his case with younger man. he had ton of problem, broken childhood, peterpan syndrome, etc.



omarct said:
I feel like if those boys were little girls nobody would doubt them.....

Some of the Bigger, more Obvious Contradictions: 2:26 - 3:33; 3:47 - 4:44; 5:31 - 8:04; 9:59 - 11:58; 12:06 - 17:33 ESPECIALLY 13:18 - 14:18 AND 14:29 - 15:41; 17:41 - 18:18, 19:01 - 23:32; 24:05 - 25:00; 25:55 - 26:55; 28:11 - The End. 


I did you the favor of time stamping the most particular and damning pieces of exposition and dis-credibility and picking and choosing which ones you want to view at your own time. But you're better off actually watching the entire thing from beginning to end, seeing as how I might as well have timestamped the whole thing, to have a much better and more solid understanding.

As he stated, FACTS don't give a FUCK about your feelings. 

People who actually do their proper research and look for the legitimate, concrete facts on the issue, instead of believe the claims and stories without a second thought, would call bullshit on those claims and stories no matter what gender they are.

People don't doubt them because they're boys. They doubt them because all logical, factual signs say they're full of shit. They have changed and contradicted their stories multiple times, and NONE of them make any sense when you actually do proper research and investigate the background information behind their claims.



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By continuously going after an innocent, dead man, who can no longer defend himself since... he's dead... with similar allegations and accusations that have loooong since been disproven and will continue to be disproven the more they are brought up, all these people are really doing is empowering actual abusers and damaging the claims and cases of actual victims. 



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PAOerfulone said:

By continuously going after an innocent, dead man, who can no longer defend himself since... he's dead... with similar allegations and accusations that have loooong since been disproven and will continue to be disproven the more they are brought up, all these people are really doing is empowering actual abusers and damaging the claims and cases of actual victims. 

What a load of baloney. I haven't watched the stupid documentary. But just from watching videos and interviews of MJ speaking and caressing these children I can see clear as day what the fuck was going on. People say he had mental issues thats why he did and said what he did, but have you ever thought what sort of mental issues these children who were abused have gone through? Being made to fall in love with their idol who sexually and mentally abused them? You citing these boys defending him or going back on what they have said proves nothing. All you need is 3 inches of forhead to really know what was going on. No rational individual would leave their boys along with this monster in the same room. The fact that fools like you defends him just show how easily people are deceived and why sexual predation of minors is so rampant across the world. Did you know that most cases of sexual molestation of minors comes from close family member or family friends? Have you stopped for a second and tried to think about anything at all? 



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omarct said:
PAOerfulone said:

By continuously going after an innocent, dead man, who can no longer defend himself since... he's dead... with similar allegations and accusations that have loooong since been disproven and will continue to be disproven the more they are brought up, all these people are really doing is empowering actual abusers and damaging the claims and cases of actual victims. 

What a load of baloney. I haven't watched the stupid documentary. But just from watching videos and interviews of MJ speaking and caressing these children I can see clear as day what the fuck was going on. People say he had mental issues thats why he did and said what he did, but have you ever thought what sort of mental issues these children who were abused have gone through? Being made to fall in love with their idol who sexually and mentally abused them? You citing these boys defending him or going back on what they have said proves nothing. All you need is 3 inches of forhead to really know what was going on. No rational individual would leave their boys along with this monster in the same room. The fact that fools like you defends him just show how easily people are deceived and why sexual predation of minors is so rampant across the world. Did you know that most cases of sexual molestation of minors comes from close family member or family friends? Have you stopped for a second and tried to think about anything at all? 

Seems like something you haven't done at all. 

If I were the parent of a molested child, I would want the demon who did it to be put behind bars for good instead of getting a $20 million settlement and then not even bother following through with a criminal trial that could put him in prison for a very long time like the father of Jordan Chandler in 1993 did. I wouldn't have needed to have the prosecution fabricate evidence like the Arvisos in 2003-2005 did. I would have disregarded what my son, Jimmy Safechuck said and pressed my own charges and allegations against him when he told me he was molested by Michael in 2005, like any competent parent would, instead of keeping quiet about it and dancing when he died because "YES! He can't hurt anymore children!" (Even though Safechuck said he didn't realize he was abused until 2013... 4 Years after Jackson died. So apparently the Safechucks must be time-travelers!)

If I were Michael Jackson, and I actually DID molest Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck, there is absolutely, positively, no way in hell I would call them to testify in my defense in 2005. In which they have to go through a thorough and meticulous private investigator and then withstand a rigorous and grueling cross-examination from the defense and the prosecution where at any point in time they could easily, EASILY, crumble and incriminate me, expose me, and assist in having me convicted of all charges, locking me away in prison for 25 years and ruining my career, name, and reputation in the process. What an incredibly stupid gamble to take on my part. Obviously, given my power, fame, money, status, people, and resources at my disposal, I could come up with better, stronger, more effective, and MUCH, MUCH safer means of defending myself than trying to put 2 boys, now fully grown men, I butt-raped on the witness stand to say "he never touched me." 

You continue to allow your emotions and feelings to dictate your judgement without  actually stopping for a second and trying to think about anything at all and exploring factual evidence, which all shows he didn't do it. If you ignorantly and foolishly continue to refuse to look at those facts or even acknowledge them, then we have nothing more to discuss. We're done here. So with that, I bid you a good night and try to be more logical and factual moving forward. 

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The accuser conveniently remembers past memories when facing financial difficulty and rejected from a job position. This guy is not a victim, he is entitled and has The World owes me mentality.



PAOerfulone said:
omarct said:

What a load of baloney. I haven't watched the stupid documentary. But just from watching videos and interviews of MJ speaking and caressing these children I can see clear as day what the fuck was going on. People say he had mental issues thats why he did and said what he did, but have you ever thought what sort of mental issues these children who were abused have gone through? Being made to fall in love with their idol who sexually and mentally abused them? You citing these boys defending him or going back on what they have said proves nothing. All you need is 3 inches of forhead to really know what was going on. No rational individual would leave their boys along with this monster in the same room. The fact that fools like you defends him just show how easily people are deceived and why sexual predation of minors is so rampant across the world. Did you know that most cases of sexual molestation of minors comes from close family member or family friends? Have you stopped for a second and tried to think about anything at all? 

Seems like something you haven't done at all. 

If I were the parent of a molested child, I would want the demon who did it to be put behind bars for good instead of getting a $20 million settlement and then not even bother following through with a criminal trial that could put him in prison for a very long time like the father of Jordan Chandler in 1993 did. I wouldn't have needed to have the prosecution fabricate evidence like the Arvisos in 2003-2005 did. I would have disregarded what my son, Jimmy Safechuck said and pressed my own charges and allegations against him when he told me he was molested by Michael in 2005, like any competent parent would, instead of keeping quiet about it and dancing when he died because "YES! He can't hurt anymore children!" (Even though Safechuck said he didn't realize he was abused until 2013... 4 Years after Jackson died. So apparently the Safechucks must be time-travelers!)

If I were Michael Jackson, and I actually DID molest Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck, there is absolutely, positively, no way in hell I would call them to testify in my defense in 2005. In which they have to go through a thorough and meticulous private investigator and then withstand a rigorous and grueling cross-examination from the defense and the prosecution where at any point in time they could easily, EASILY, crumble and incriminate me, expose me, and assist in having me convicted of all charges, locking me away in prison for 25 years and ruining my career, name, and reputation in the process. What an incredibly stupid gamble to take on my part. Obviously, given my power, fame, money, status, people, and resources at my disposal, I could come up with better, stronger, more effective, and MUCH, MUCH safer means of defending myself than trying to put 2 boys, now fully grown men, I butt-raped on the witness stand to say "he never touched me." 

You continue to allow your emotions and feelings to dictate your judgement without  actually stopping for a second and trying to think about anything at all and exploring factual evidence, which all shows he didn't do it. If you ignorantly and foolishly continue to refuse to look at those facts or even acknowledge them, then we have nothing more to discuss. We're done here. So with that, I bid you a good night and try to be more logical and factual moving forward. 

 

 

Ok when you have kids make sure you send them to sleep to some famous singers room for a few weeks. I am sure everything will be fine and dandy. Heck maybe you want some recommendations? I heard Bill Cosby really loves young girls. How about R. Kelly? His little girls even defend him from the bad bad people. What a load of crap from a michael jackson fanboy, that gif you posted tells me everything, you never took this seriously, because you never gave a damn about those kids or what they went through. This whole conversation was pointless, the monster is dead so no point in wasting my time, I only hope some people wake up to the massive abuse that goes on in the entertainment business towards young boys and girls. The blind following and deification of famous individuals is nothing but lunacy, even worse than religion.

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omarct said:
PAOerfulone said:

By continuously going after an innocent, dead man, who can no longer defend himself since... he's dead... with similar allegations and accusations that have loooong since been disproven and will continue to be disproven the more they are brought up, all these people are really doing is empowering actual abusers and damaging the claims and cases of actual victims. 

What a load of baloney. I haven't watched the stupid documentary. But just from watching videos and interviews of MJ speaking and caressing these children I can see clear as day what the fuck was going on. People say he had mental issues thats why he did and said what he did, but have you ever thought what sort of mental issues these children who were abused have gone through? Being made to fall in love with their idol who sexually and mentally abused them? You citing these boys defending him or going back on what they have said proves nothing. All you need is 3 inches of forhead to really know what was going on. No rational individual would leave their boys along with this monster in the same room. The fact that fools like you defends him just show how easily people are deceived and why sexual predation of minors is so rampant across the world. Did you know that most cases of sexual molestation of minors comes from close family member or family friends? Have you stopped for a second and tried to think about anything at all? 

You could picture the evidence because his way of acting around children was weird?

People defend the actual law and the judgement of the law after an immense investigation proved him not guilthy,you want to also call them fools because a video made you angry?Most people are undecided on this and that is normal given the courts reaction,does not make them as bad as you again picture them to be and resorting to personal attacks does only show that you can not handle the subject without attaching emotions to it that have a possibility of manipulating your truthfullness.



omarct said:
I feel like if those boys were little girls nobody would doubt them.....

If that was true you wouldn't have people asking for testimony being enough as proof and also the "don't blame the victm" movements. People want proof.

omarct said:
PAOerfulone said:

By continuously going after an innocent, dead man, who can no longer defend himself since... he's dead... with similar allegations and accusations that have loooong since been disproven and will continue to be disproven the more they are brought up, all these people are really doing is empowering actual abusers and damaging the claims and cases of actual victims. 

What a load of baloney. I haven't watched the stupid documentary. But just from watching videos and interviews of MJ speaking and caressing these children I can see clear as day what the fuck was going on. People say he had mental issues thats why he did and said what he did, but have you ever thought what sort of mental issues these children who were abused have gone through? Being made to fall in love with their idol who sexually and mentally abused them? You citing these boys defending him or going back on what they have said proves nothing. All you need is 3 inches of forhead to really know what was going on. No rational individual would leave their boys along with this monster in the same room. The fact that fools like you defends him just show how easily people are deceived and why sexual predation of minors is so rampant across the world. Did you know that most cases of sexual molestation of minors comes from close family member or family friends? Have you stopped for a second and tried to think about anything at all? 

I didn't realised we had a psychic here.

You should work in court as you can so easily see everything with 100% certainty.

And since you opened up the send your children to a famous person house for a sleep over. Would you send your child to someone that was accused of being a child rapist and you know he was accused?



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