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If better be a full fledged 9th gen console with REAL big budget AAA, AA, and A exclusives, or else its just a joke. Better not be a shitty android console with fake mobile games.



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I think google will be working whit 2 products.
1. Google stream box: just for streaming, connects whit google services and whit the "real hardware" that is produced for "google gaming" and is similar to consoles like xbox and playstation.
2. Google "Real hardware": don't want to stream games? Then why not buy google machine and play games local, just like a normal console? Google will produce these for streaming and will be more than happy to sell some of these machine for more "traditional users" that want the hardware at hands.



Prediction: In 5 years Nintendo will Lauch a "Core Mario game"  very similar to Astro Bot. That said, many will Ignore Astro Bot existence and say Nintendo created this concept.

JEMC said:
DonFerrari said:

Unless they are dumb they will sell for cheaper at similar performance.

Because even if they have a lot of exclusives they are creating, they don't have recognition so "no one" would chose their exclusives.

And then we're coming to the "how cheap can they sell it" point of all this venture. How much are they willing to lose with the hardware to break in the market with as many units as possible while trying to recoup some of those loses with the software? I mean, Sony and Msoft have the Live and PSN subscriptions to help them lowe their price if they find it necessary, but Google doesn't have any of that either... at least yet.

In any case, time will tell.

Shall we pray for it to crash and burn or that they bring even more good games? I chose the second knowing the first will happen.



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JEMC said:
DonFerrari said:

Unless they are dumb they will sell for cheaper at similar performance.

Because even if they have a lot of exclusives they are creating, they don't have recognition so "no one" would chose their exclusives.

And then we're coming to the "how cheap can they sell it" point of all this venture. How much are they willing to lose with the hardware to break in the market with as many units as possible while trying to recoup some of those loses with the software? I mean, Sony and Msoft have the Live and PSN subscriptions to help them lowe their price if they find it necessary, but Google doesn't have any of that either... at least yet.

In any case, time will tell.

I don't think because a company is super huge that they'll necessarily use their economic power to subsidize their products. MS didn't do that with the Xbox for instance. In fact, quite the oposite. These companies are their size exactly because their margins of profits are so massive, and shareholders would find it somewhat strange to join a market where there isn't the chance to do so.

So I welcome the competition, and hope for good things in the future (though failure is the most likely scenario).



 

 

 

 

 

- GDC
- Google is primarily a software company
- Teaser Video

Guys, it's not a console. It's a game engine optimized for cloud/streams. Similar to Amazon Lumberyard.



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Google has its foot in everything these days. Them and Amazon are the ones to watch out for.



Not long to wait anyways, still think it is just a streaming box, hope I am wrong though. Need a company to replace MS and their GAAS crap.



shikamaru317 said:
ThatDreamcastTho said:

It will take 10 years at least before game streaming really takes off.

Agreed. And that is exactly why they are releasing this console now. If they wait 10 years, they will be at a huge disadvantage against Microsoft's xCloud and Sony's PS Now in the streaming service war. But, if they release the console and the streaming service now, integrated together with all of their games releasing on both just like MS is planning to do with xCloud, they can potentially start to win over a dedicated fanbase like Sony and MS have, people who will switch over to the streaming service as it become a viable option for them due to the improving internet in their area over the next 10 years. 

One factor not being talked about here that may put a big damper on potential players like Google in the future game streaming market, that is facing the same  situation  that the big three face with major content providers like Square, EA ,Activision etc seeing a very tempting future with streaming giving them a direct link  to the consumer, but one not without its own set of challenges and questions to be answered by them like do you go it alone, or do you combat potential over fragmentation of the market by combining with other content providers to have enough scale.

So what the big three especially Sony and MS need to look at is things might start out great,but with the services maturing, just like netflix is starting to see future headwinds in the form of Disney moving content onto their own service, so they can't be complacent,maybe opportunity will arise in the form of the increased in value of content that streaming brings  being enough to justify the cost of buying a controlling interest in some of these companies or at least changing the way present day publishing on psn/live works entering into long term partnership deals, no matter it looks like a future of disruption.

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konnichiwa said:

Well it is easy to agree with you but that's what they said about Playstation and Xbox.  Let's just wait and see how much money they spent on AAA games.

PlayStation took advantage of Sega's and Nintendo's failures in the mid 90s. Sega absolutely destroying their status as a console maker provided a vacuum for PlayStation to fill. Nintendo's decision to stick with cartridges also gave Sony a huge boost as most third parties at the time were unwilling to deal the limitations of the N64's format and chose to support the PlayStation.

With Xbox, MS already had some experience in the video game market, publishing and even developing games for Windows PCs. Even then, the Xbox flopped in Europe and especially Japan, and finished a distant second in the U.S., where it sold only a third of what the PS2 sold. At 24 million units lifetime, it wasn't a complete failure, but, given the size of the global console market after Europe caught up with North America, it wasn't very impressive, either. The only reason it did even what it did was on the strength of Halo. Had they not bought out Bungie back in 2000, I honestly think the Xbox would have been a complete failure. They managed to start Gen 7 off on a better footing, but the main reason the 360 got to be so big was because Sony screwed up by releasing an overpriced system. Also, Nintendo ceasing to make conventional consoles when they went the Wii route provided an opening for Xbox to be the sole primary competitor to PlayStation.

For Google, their only chance is if they A) have some absolutely massive killer app that blows everyone away like SMB, Sonic '91, FFVII, and Halo CE did for the others, B) either Sony or MS make some huge mistake that has catastrophic consequences on their brands, providing Google an opening to exploit. I doubt the console market's ability to support three conventional systems and all three be healthy. Every time we've had more than two, we either had two successful ones and a bunch of abject failures, or we had the Gen 6 situation where one established console brand dominated, leaving the other two to fight over the scraps.





Jade Raymond, former Assassin's Creed Executive Producer and head of Ubisoft Toronto and EA Motive, has joined Google as a Vice President, very likely within the gaming division. She will likely report to Phil Harrison, former Xbox and Playstation executive who joined Google as a Vice President last year and is believed to be heading up the Google Gaming Division. It is quite possible that she will be running a new 1st party studio for Google. They are definitely taking this gaming initiative seriously. 

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