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WTH!?? PS4 Remote Play from any iOS device. Available now.

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Dante9 said:
I don't see the point in this, when you still need to be in the vicinity of the PS4?. I guess it gives Apple devotees another reason to fondle their gear.

Its called Remote play, for a reason.

It means you play it remotely.... ei. it plays on your turn'ed on PS4 in your home.
Then it streams it over the internet to your phone (which can be anywhere, if you have good enough internet speeds on it).



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Just to remember all that PSNow have been available outside of Sony devices before, just PS4 games that are still tied to PS4. It may certainly change in the future if they see more benefit doing it.



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Azzanation said:

For now, like I mentioned before, its a step in the right direction. Most likely moving forward, PS Now will be implemented and allowing more access to gamers for those who don't want to be locked into a console platform. 

PS Now =/= Remote Play 

Sony are going in a direction alright but not exactly in the direction you think it is ... 

Sony will also use streaming to enhance system ownership as well and not just as a service ... 



Azzanation said:
Jranation said:

So you dont have to own a playstation console to play playstation games?

Atm you still need to own a PS to play PS games however with steps like this,  PSNow can possibly be implemented in the near future which doesn't require a PS console. 

Would be cool. I want to play the Gravity Rush games.



fatslob-:O said:

PS Now =/= Remote Play 

Sony are going in a direction alright but not exactly in the direction you think it is ... 

Sony will also use streaming to enhance system ownership as well and not just as a service ... 

Ugh.. not sure what direction you think they are heading, but the way the industry is heading, Streaming is becoming more and more multiplatform. Its only a matter of time before Sony and many others see the money side of things and start expanding.



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Azzanation said:

Ugh.. not sure what direction you think they are heading, but the way the industry is heading, Streaming is becoming more and more multiplatform. Its only a matter of time before Sony and many others see the money side of things and start expanding.

The concept of streaming is a functionality, not an ideological argument that you make it to be ... 

Streaming does not necessarily make the platform holder become more inclusive of external platforms but it makes people more inclusive to their platforms like we see ... 

Just because there are more ways to play PS games does not change the fundamental fact that Sony remains the sole provider of PS Now/Remote Play ... (you don't get to choose another provider but instead they just offer another platform) 

Sorry to burst your bubble here but no one else is going to provide PS games other than Sony and streaming isn't going to change that in any way, shape or form ... (Sony ISN'T going to be 'multiplatform' in any meaningful capacity than they are now when their games can only be run on their dedicated devices or through streaming with their special gaming hardware farms) 

How does one escape Sony without buying their home console or keeping subscription to their cloud service if the customers still want their games ?

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fatslob-:O said:

The concept of streaming is a functionality, not an ideological argument that you make it to be ... 

Streaming does not necessarily make the platform holder become more inclusive of external platforms but it makes people more inclusive to their platforms like we see ... 

Just because there are more ways to play PS games does not change the fundamental fact that Sony remains the sole provider of PS Now/Remote Play ... (you don't get to choose another provider but instead they just offer another platform) 

Sorry to burst your bubble here but no one else is going to provide PS games other than Sony and streaming isn't going to change that in any way, shape or form ... (Sony ISN'T going to be 'multiplatform' in any meaningful capacity than they are now when their games can only be run on their dedicated devices or through streaming with their special gaming hardware farms) 

How does one escape Sony without buying their home console or keeping subscription to their cloud service if the customers still want their games ?

You seem to fail to understand what PSNow is already doing. Streaming PS games on a PC without owning a PS console. PSNow is not a service that's getting smaller, Sony is investing and expanding that service to more countries and adding more and more games. 

What was your point again?



Azzanation said:

You seem to fail to understand what PSNow is already doing. Streaming PS games on a PC without owning a PS console. PSNow is not a service that's getting smaller, Sony is investing and expanding that service to more countries and adding more and more games. 

What was your point again?

PS Now is relatively lukewarm in reception and streaming won't entirely supersede ownership of the dedicated system because it's nearly unfeasible for any company no matter how big they are to subsidize risk of the entire cost of allocating tens of millions of systems for their farms ... (PS Now literally has 'queues' so cloud gaming will hardly break the allure of personal ownership since the user has the even more freedom than before to access their own home console anywhere/anytime they desire with streaming)

Explain how exactly are Sony somehow becoming more 'multiplatform' when they still own their cloud gaming platform ? (the only difference between the cloud and a dedicated system is that you're still paying Sony to rent the system for you) 

Did your previous posts just arise from a hint of envy or insecurity because of the fact that one platform holder is doing a better job at maintaining the appeal of their platforms compared the competitor ?



fatslob-:O said:

 PS Now is relatively lukewarm in reception and streaming won't entirely supersede ownership of the dedicated system because it's nearly unfeasible for any company no matter how big they are to subsidize risk of the entire cost of allocating tens of millions of systems for their farms ... (PS Now literally has 'queues' so cloud gaming will hardly break the allure of personal ownership since the user has the even more freedom than before to access their own home console anywhere/anytime they desire with streaming)

Explain how exactly are Sony somehow becoming more 'multiplatform' when they still own their cloud gaming platform ? (the only difference between the cloud and a dedicated system is that you're still paying Sony to rent the system for you) 

Did your previous posts just arise from a hint of envy or insecurity because of the fact that one platform holder is doing a better job at maintaining the appeal of their platforms compared the competitor ?

You just keep contradicting yourself.

You just said in a post before "How does one escape Sony without buying their home console"

I answered PSNow.

Now you are making excuses to why PSNow will never take off. Umm PSNow is an alternative to owning a PS platform so your previous point is invalid. No difference to MS's strategy with Xbox on PC. You have accepted the fact PSNow exists so you know you don't require a PS platform to play PS games. (If PSNow is available)

This isn't about who makes the money or weather the quality is better, its about weather or not you need the hardware to play the games. Ask Netflix. 

As much as you like to defend console gaming, Hardware doesn't make as much money as software so selling 100m+ consoles isn't as good as selling 100m+ software. The bigger the audience the better chance software can sell. That's business.



Azzanation said:

You just keep contradicting yourself.

You just said in a post before "How does one escape Sony without buying their home console"

I answered PSNow.

 

Cherry pick much ?

"How does one escape Sony without buying their home console or keeping subscription to their cloud service if the customers still want their games ?"

You might want to stop bending my quotes so hard out context ... 

Azzanation said:

Now you are making excuses to why PSNow will never take off. Umm PSNow is an alternative to owning a PS platform so your previous point is invalid. No difference to MS's strategy with Xbox on PC. You have accepted the fact PSNow exists so you know you don't require a PS platform to play PS games. (If PSNow is available)

This isn't about who makes the money or weather the quality is better, its about weather or not you need the hardware to play the games. Ask Netflix. 

As much as you like to defend console gaming, Hardware doesn't make as much money as software so selling 100m+ consoles isn't as good as selling 100m+ software. The bigger the audience the better chance software can sell. That's business.

 

I am not making any excuses why PS Now will never take off. There's a very real serious downside to PS Now yet your refusal to acknowledge this just comes off as bitterness to the fact that your favourite platform holder will likely never be at the level of their main competitor nor will their competitor degrade themselves to that level either ... 

PS games STILL REQUIRE a PS platform and that's exactly what PS Now is which is a cloud gaming platform ... (whether the individual or the service provider owns the hardware makes no difference in this instance) 

The comparison to Netflix isn't apt either since they do not offer interactive entertainment. Games STILL NEED to run on hardware yet you can't grasp this so out of desperation you compare the medium to pure video content which only needs data to function but this is not true for games. You need hardware but you're just renting it you opt in for cloud gaming ... (cloud gaming is only as viable as the service providers infrastructure)

Console gaming is going nowhere in the near future and dedicated hardware still has a purpose in establishing a permanent customer base but PS Now numbers are nowhere near as optimistic as you suggest it'll be. PS Now made a total of $143M during Q3 of 2018 and each subscriber spent $25 per month which translates to just under 2M active subscribers per year on average. Selling >2M subscribers does not even hold a candle to selling 10M+ hardware units per year ... (bigger audience indeed the better for higher software revenue but this doesn't make competition among platform holders more equal since PS Now is already the most dominant cloud gaming service so their competitor still has to offer more compelling content)