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I'll say the same thing about this that I said about the Robot LABO.  It doesn't look very fun.  It comes across as another product kids will beg for, play with for a day, then go back to hitting each other with curtain rods.  

That being said, maybe the actual software is incredible.  I doubt it but it's possible.

zorg1000 said:

There was no point. Curl said hes not a fan of having a screen strapped to his face and Conina replied that people wear helmets and goggles all the time as if that has anything to do with Curl's personal feelings about VR headsets or things strapped to his head in general.

Why cant VR fans just accept that some people arent interested in VR? Literally every time I have seen someone say they dont like VR or that it doesnt appeal to them there is always someone questioning if they have ever used one and then goes on to list reasons why the person is wrong for not liking or being interested in VR.

Conina's argument about helmets/goggles takes the cake for most irrelevant rebuttle I have ever seen on this site.

Let me first say that I'm not a fan of VR.  I haven't really tried it recently but as of now, it doesn't interest me.  That being said, I can absolutely understand why people who like VR get sick and tired of anti-VR people saying companies need to stop investing in VR simply because they don't like it.  That, to me, is far more annoying than VR fans defending something they enjoy.  If it looked like the traditional market was being dumped as companies hop on the VR train then I could understand but that is obviously not happening.  

You can't gloss over, "companies need to stop making this because I don't like it." That's not the same thing as, "I'm not interested in it."  I don't even care about VR but that kind of attitude bugs me, too, when it's apparent than many people do like it.



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pokoko said:

I'll say the same thing about this that I said about the Robot LABO.  It doesn't look very fun.  It comes across as another product kids will beg for, play with for a day, then go back to hitting each other with curtain rods.  

That being said, maybe the actual software is incredible.  I doubt it but it's possible.

zorg1000 said:

There was no point. Curl said hes not a fan of having a screen strapped to his face and Conina replied that people wear helmets and goggles all the time as if that has anything to do with Curl's personal feelings about VR headsets or things strapped to his head in general.

Why cant VR fans just accept that some people arent interested in VR? Literally every time I have seen someone say they dont like VR or that it doesnt appeal to them there is always someone questioning if they have ever used one and then goes on to list reasons why the person is wrong for not liking or being interested in VR.

Conina's argument about helmets/goggles takes the cake for most irrelevant rebuttle I have ever seen on this site.

Let me first say that I'm not a fan of VR.  I haven't really tried it recently but as of now, it doesn't interest me.  That being said, I can absolutely understand why people who like VR get sick and tired of anti-VR people saying companies need to stop investing in VR simply because they don't like it.  That, to me, is far more annoying than VR fans defending something they enjoy.  If it looked like the traditional market was being dumped as companies hop on the VR train then I could understand but that is obviously not happening.  

You can't gloss over, "companies need to stop making this because I don't like it." That's not the same thing as, "I'm not interested in it."  I don't even care about VR but that kind of attitude bugs me, too, when it's apparent than many people do like it.

I totally agree that people who want things to fail because it's not what they like are way worse and Ive called people out on that many times.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Conina said:
zorg1000 said:

Like I just dont get your counter point,

Curl: "i dont like having a screen strapped to my face"

You: "ya well helmets are good protection and goggles help you see in water"

Curl: "i dont like having a screen strapped to my face"

Me: "Many people don't like having objects strapped to their face, BUT if it allows them to enjoy activities (better/safer), they will accept the minor hassle."

But how does that apply to Curl? What other people do has nothing to do with him and he clearly doesnt  think VR allows him to better enjoy gaming so the minor hassle is not worth it.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

the-pi-guy said:
curl-6 said:

I'm not a fan of having a screen strapped to my face

Do you wear glasses?  


Nope.

Conina said:
curl-6 said:

Like i said, I'm not a fan of having a screen strapped to my face, doesn't matter how "decent" the model is considered by those who are into such things.

Well, people also aren't too happy about wearing a helmet on a motor bike, quad, kart, skateboard... or to strap on ski goggles or swim goggles or diving goggles to ski /swim / dive, but they put them on anyway to have either more security or a better experience. And it doesn't stop there, they even put on diving suits, protective gear, etc. to enjoy their hobbies.

It is the same for VR headsets: for a minor inconvenience you are getting experiences not possible without the HMD. If the experiences and immersion are worth it, people will accept the necessary minor hassle. Mileage will vary from person to person, but the VR-experiences will get a lot better over time and the hassle will get smaller over time.

But why would I want to make any concession for something that does not interest me?

zorg1000 said:
Lafiel said:

I have trouble believing someone proficient in english (like a native englisher speaker should be) has any difficulties understanding the reasonable point that was made. Are you arguing in good faith ?

There was no point. Curl said hes not a fan of having a screen strapped to his face and Conina replied that people wear helmets and goggles all the time as if that has anything to do with Curl's personal feelings about VR headsets or things strapped to his head in general.

Why cant VR fans just accept that some people arent interested in VR? Literally every time I have seen someone say they dont like VR or that it doesnt appeal to them there is always someone questioning if they have ever used one and then goes on to list reasons why the person is wrong for not liking or being interested in VR

THANK YOU.

I don't get why VR advocates can't seem to accept the simple fact that some folks aren't into VR. It's always "oh you probably haven't even tried it/you just haven't tried the right headset/you're closed-minded/etc." NO. I JUST. DON'T. CARE. FOR. VR.

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curl-6 said:

THANK YOU.

I don't get why VR advocates can't seem to accept the simple fact that some folks aren't into VR. It's always "oh you probably haven't even tried it/you just haven't tried the right headset/you're closed-minded/etc." NO. I JUST. DON'T. CARE. FOR. VR.

yet you made a thread about a VR device

btw Conina didn't imply any of that, he was simply trying to explain why people put up with strapping a screen to their faces at this time 

personally I expect very competent VR devices to have a form factor similar to sunglasses within the next 2 decades, which should be more palatable to more people - this doesn't mean that I expect you personally to be interested in VR once that happens, it's fine with me (and probably everyone in this thread) if you never have any interest in it

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Lafiel said:
curl-6 said:

THANK YOU.

I don't get why VR advocates can't seem to accept the simple fact that some folks aren't into VR. It's always "oh you probably haven't even tried it/you just haven't tried the right headset/you're closed-minded/etc." NO. I JUST. DON'T. CARE. FOR. VR.

yet you made a thread about a VR device

btw Conina didn't imply any of that, he was simply trying to explain why people put up with strapping a screen to their faces at this time 

personally I expect very competent VR devices to have a form factor similar to sunglasses within the next 2 decades, which should be more palatable to more people - which doesn't mean that I expect you personally to be interested in VR once that happens, it's fine with me (and probably everyone in this thread) if you never have any interest in it

Posting a topic about an upcoming game does not mean I myself want to get said game. This was an announcement worthy of discussion regardless of whether it's for me or not. Nor did I single out Conina except to quote and directly respond to his post directed at me.

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curl-6 said:
Lafiel said:

yet you made a thread about a VR device

btw Conina didn't imply any of that, he was simply trying to explain why people put up with strapping a screen to their faces at this time 

personally I expect very competent VR devices to have a form factor similar to sunglasses within the next 2 decades, which should be more palatable to more people - which doesn't mean that I expect you personally to be interested in VR once that happens, it's fine with me (and probably everyone in this thread) if you never have any interest in it

Posting a topic about an upcoming game does not mean I myself want to get said game. This was an announcement worthy of discussion regardless of whether it's for me or not. Nor did I single out Conina, I was speaking of a broader pattern of behaviour.

I'm aware that you were simply posting the news, yet also a pretty active participant in the thread. Still it struck me as funny that you then so comically overemphasize (with caps lock and full stops) your disinterest in the main function of the device at hand :) .

That pattern of bahaviour certainly exists within the VR community, the guy whose statement you backed there kinda did single out Conina as someone exhibiting it, although you took that from a post that was directed at me.



Lafiel said:
curl-6 said:

Posting a topic about an upcoming game does not mean I myself want to get said game. This was an announcement worthy of discussion regardless of whether it's for me or not. Nor did I single out Conina, I was speaking of a broader pattern of behaviour.

I'm aware that you were simply posting the news, yet also a pretty active participant in the thread. Still it struck me as funny that you then so comically overemphasize (with caps lock and full stops) your disinterest in the main function of the device at hand :) .

That pattern of bahaviour certainly exists within the VR community, the guy whose statement you backed there kinda did single out Conina as someone exhibiting it, although you took that from a post that was directed at me.

Not being interested in purchasing something and not being interested in discussing it are two very different things.



curl-6 said:

THANK YOU.

I don't get why VR advocates can't seem to accept the simple fact that some folks aren't into VR. It's always "oh you probably haven't even tried it/you just haven't tried the right headset/you're closed-minded/etc." NO. I JUST. DON'T. CARE. FOR. VR.

I'm sorry Curl, but you are not the victim you really trying to pass yourself off as in this thread.  This has absolutely nothing to do with "VR advocates" not being able to accept the "simple fact that some folks aren't into VR".  In this case, it is about how you can't seem to accept that some folks are into VR.  You would have been fine if you had just said "this doesn't really appeal to me."  But that's not what you said.  Instead, you went with this:

"Pretty much how I feel. I don't like VR so hopefully this doesn't perform super well and they don't invest any more in it."

Wanting something to fail because it doesn't appeal to you is childish.   You came in looking for a fight with a comment like that, so don't whine about the fact you got one.

 

PM sent -the-pi-guy

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DreadPirateRoberts said:
curl-6 said:

THANK YOU.

I don't get why VR advocates can't seem to accept the simple fact that some folks aren't into VR. It's always "oh you probably haven't even tried it/you just haven't tried the right headset/you're closed-minded/etc." NO. I JUST. DON'T. CARE. FOR. VR.

I'm sorry Curl, but you are not the victim you really trying to pass yourself off as in this thread.  This has absolutely nothing to do with "VR advocates" not being able to accept the "simple fact that some folks aren't into VR".  In this case, it is about how you can't seem to accept that some folks are into VR.  You would have been fine if you had just said "this doesn't really appeal to me."  But that's not what you said.  Instead, you went with this:

"Pretty much how I feel. I don't like VR so hopefully this doesn't perform super well and they don't invest any more in it."

Wanting something to fail because it doesn't appeal to you is childish.   You came in looking for a fight with a comment like that, so don't whine about the fact you got one.

He doesnt want it to fail and said so multiple times



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.