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What is with the Japanese's obsession with Digital Food outings? I feel like in all the JRPGs I have played in the last 3 years there is some excessively drawn out situation where the main characters dine at an inn and they go through all this meaningless discription of how good the food is. I.....DONT.....CARE!!! I am not actually eating it! Denote it, then quickly move on. It is very uninteresting. As much as I love The Legend of Heroes series they are riddled with this.

And Speaking of that same game, JRPGs should stop dwelling on word count and stop padding their story. The game has a phenomenal plot but you could maybe cut the dialogue in half and get the same exact point across. Yet they have this fascination with increasing word volume like books. It isn't benefiting the story. In fact....I would say it detracts from the skillful plots. Eliminate half of the long food outings.


This is an RPG issue in general, and bad design choice. Do NOT make the ultimate weapons behind a bunch of secret boss fights that would have been perfectly suited to USE said weapons against. It is a question of by the time I achieve the weapons I should have a bevy of enemies still to face and sharpen my new toy on. If I have to collect materials to make said weapons.....I shouldn't have to fight the toughest enemies in the game to get it. It's counter productive.

The Anime Tropes of large variety need to just die. I have never been a fan of "chosen one" plots. I despise damsel in distress female characters and have been let down by several of the last JRPGs I played for portraying them that way.



      

      

      

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The Fury said:
Only thing about JRPGs that is truely bad is usually voice acting and cutscene pacing. I've been put off buying or finished JRPGs because of how the pacing or editing on voice lines is just bad and has no flow.

Most of what you described are in western RPGs too. Just because you can see an enemy doesn't mean you won't have to fight them to gain levels. The grind is the grind, you just need to find your way to enjoy it. FFs in general have very little grind, the amount of fights you'd have during the journey were enough to level correctly usually.

Yeah but at least when I can see the enemies on the field I can mentally prepare myself for the encounter.  But when I'm walking around, exploring the world, and a random battle just "happens" out of the blue, that's just annoying.



Lack of diversity. Would be nice if for once, just once, the main character didn't look how I expected him to look.



forevercloud3000 said:
What is with the Japanese's obsession with Digital Food outings? I feel like in all the JRPGs I have played in the last 3 years there is some excessively drawn out situation where the main characters dine at an inn and they go through all this meaningless discription of how good the food is. I.....DONT.....CARE!!! I am not actually eating it! Denote it, then quickly move on. It is very uninteresting. As much as I love The Legend of Heroes series they are riddled with this.

And Speaking of that same game, JRPGs should stop dwelling on word count and stop padding their story. The game has a phenomenal plot but you could maybe cut the dialogue in half and get the same exact point across. Yet they have this fascination with increasing word volume like books. It isn't benefiting the story. In fact....I would say it detracts from the skillful plots. Eliminate half of the long food outings.


This is an RPG issue in general, and bad design choice. Do NOT make the ultimate weapons behind a bunch of secret boss fights that would have been perfectly suited to USE said weapons against. It is a question of by the time I achieve the weapons I should have a bevy of enemies still to face and sharpen my new toy on. If I have to collect materials to make said weapons.....I shouldn't have to fight the toughest enemies in the game to get it. It's counter productive.

The Anime Tropes of large variety need to just die. I have never been a fan of "chosen one" plots. I despise damsel in distress female characters and have been let down by several of the last JRPGs I played for portraying them that way.

The games are made to the public that likes it. We aren't the core aim, but we go there and buy it.

But I agree it's moronic that the best weapon or skill is obtained after you kill the strongest boss and then won't need it anymore.



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Paperboy_J said:

Yeah but at least when I can see the enemies on the field I can mentally prepare myself for the encounter.  But when I'm walking around, exploring the world, and a random battle just "happens" out of the blue, that's just annoying.

No strategy if you know what's coming. "Oh look a fire based enemy, I'll just equip my ice blade and fire absorbing armour before I even go into the battle so the battle has no threat."

Do you not remember the sheer terror of meeting a Malboro in certain locations in FF games, knowing your die from it. Now you just walk around.

Yet in a game with random battle, no battle is out of the blue, you know they are coming as the game has random battles. The worst fights are prolonged multiple boss fights you don't know about on first play through. You think that the boss fight you are on is it but then bam, here's another, screw the fact you are on 50% HP/no MP and no healing left, win this fight. That takes real strategy.



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It really annoy me when they are not LoD.



BraLoD said:
It really annoy me when they are not LoD.

Sorry but LoD isn't a JRPG....

 

 

It is a JSRPG, Japanese Super RPG. or JBRPG, Japanese Best RPG.



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Cerebralbore101 said:

What parts of JRPGs really annoy you? Here's mine in no real order...

1. Easy pointless battles

Some JRPGs will make their fights so easy that you can just turn on auto-attack, and win the fight within the first turn. No strategizing required. 

2. Long attack animations

Performing a big attack shouldn't take up a 5 to 10 second animation. And if it does, then it should be your strongest attack. One that you only intend to use on a boss. 

3. A random battle every three steps

Yep. I am not a fan of this. Maybe having one every 5 to 10 steps is fine. Every three though? That's grind. 

4. Being forced to use/lose a party member, because plot raisins demand it. 

Yeah, just let me use whatever characters I want. Oh, you've been leveling up this one character forever? It would be a shame if he suddenly became unavailable for 1/3rd of the game due to plot raisins! 

5. Windy confusing dungeons, with no map HUD. 

Oh, man I really hate it when I'm in a dungeon with a thousand forks in the road. Only one of them leads to the boss, and the others lead to dead ends or treasure. Combine this with frequent fights, and you can just get lost for ages. 

6. Not knowing where to go next. 

Some older JRPGs give you almost no real direction. You have to go to a certain area to trigger a cutscene, and before you do the game is just locked down. 

I love the Etrian Odyssey series, because it skips all of this and more. There's always a point to fights, even if it's to kill enemies in a certain manner to get good item drops. Attack animations are fast, and to the point. Random battles are once every ten or so steps, which is a nice pace. Your entire party is always accessible. No plot raisins needed. A customizable HUD map on the bottom screen, so you never get lost. Where do you go next? To the next stratum of course! 

1. Agree

2. Sort of agree. Most games offer a way to get the short version if it's a problem. I love the spectacle, but yeah, I don't want to see it all the time.

3. Agree

4. Sort of agree. I hate the idea of losing a character I was invested in, but the roleplaying part requires you to deal with things that happen. If the gameplay doesn't reflect what's going on with the story, it's kinda a bad RPG in my mind.

5. Sort of agree. I liked Final Fantasy XI. It had crazy dungeons and no hud. You could find or buy maps but even then, it wasn't so easy to navigate (like looking at a map). But because the dungeons had a purpose and you worked with others, there was strategy to what you're doing. It wasn't just a maze to get through to move onto the next area without dying. So for 99% of the RPGs, I hate windy dungeons with no hold handing.

6. Definitely disagree. I am so tired of the hold handing in games. The older RPGs had an element of exploration. Sure, it could be frustrating some times, but most of the time I enjoyed finding what to do next on my own. Now, everything has a triangle over the head (beat this thing) or some icon on a map to travel to. No sense of roleplaying or existing in that world whatsoever.

One of my issues with JRPGs is the melodrama. Sure, many of these games have great stories, but they can get a little hammy and silly. Some parts can make me feel like I'm playing a soap opera. But most of the parts in between keep me invested.



DonFerrari said:
BraLoD said:
It really annoy me when they are not LoD.

Sorry but LoD isn't a JRPG....

 

 

It is a JSRPG, Japanese Super RPG. or JBRPG, Japanese Best RPG.

If only all games were LoD...



All of it. JRPGs are awful. The Japanese can't make rpgs.