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shikamaru317 said:

The report specifically mentions Ori and the Blind Forest as a possibility for direct porting to Switch. Some other possibilities that might make sense for Switch imo:

-Rare Replay
-Battletoads
-Super Lucky's Tale (already rumored for Switch by another source)
-ReCore (developed by former Metroid Prime devs)
-Cuphead

All of this, please.

I must say though, if something like this happens, I won't need to buy an Xbox. Wouldn't Microsoft be crazy to do this? I mean unless they're transitioning their game division's business model to sell a service instead of software or hardware, which would be a fairly Microsoft move to make, and would make a Nintendo-Microsoft partnership much more feasible. Hardware wise, if Microsoft wants to continue selling Xbox hardware, having Nintendo exclusives and Microsoft exclusives on each other's systems would only work if Microsoft only develops the high end home console hardware while Nintendo develops only lower end and portable/hybrid software. Sharing technology would be promising though, as Nintendo could get Microsoft's Hololens and Microsoft would get Nintendo's controller innovation. I think overall though, Nintendo would be making out way better than Microsoft here, at least in the hardware and software businesses. Microsoft would get most of its money out of the deal selling Game Passes and Xbox Live subscriptions. But then why would Nintendo be investing in their own online service if this sort of partnership is in the pipeline?



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shikamaru317 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Well won't letting Nintendo games being ported to Xbox take away from the incentives to buy Nintendo Switch?

Possibly, but the gain for Nintendo is also potentially huge. Switch as it is, is getting barely any AAA 3rd party support due to it's low specs relative to PS4 and XB1, and that will only get worse once PS5 and Scarlett release and graphics advance even further, xCloud would allow Nintendo to continue offering AAA games on Switch into the early years of next gen. Nintendo and MS could form a symbiotic relationship with MS putting some of their exclusives onto Switch and AAA 3rd parties onto Switch via xCloud streaming, while Nintendo returns the favor by putting ports of some of their games onto Xbox. 

I understand the idea, but I won't get my hopes up for this. Even if they, say let us play Banjo-Kazooie and/or GoldenEye on Switch.



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if this is true, I wonder if this type of partnership, along with xcloud being able to stream xbox games on any device, could be the way Microsoft finally breaks through in Japan, it's already basically non-existent there so the only way to go is up

we've already seen Microsoft being fine with Xbox One/Windows 10 exclusives but that was always different imo because Windows 10 was still owned by them and their own ecosystem (though we did see some games on Steam). The question with all of this stuff was always going to be "well how much does it affect Xbox console sales if you can get the exclusives on other things" but so far it doesn't seem to have really affected it much? In fact for 2018 I think for most of the months they were actually significantly better sales wise compared to 2017, correct me if i'm wrong.

If putting stuff like Game Pass on PC and potentially Nintendo Switch along with xcloud being able to be used on mobile devices allows them to make sales off of people who were never going buy an Xbox in the first place, then ultimately that's just more money they are making compared to before that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten with the benefit of greatly expanding their userbase and exposure of these games while not really affecting their console sales much at all, though that will remain to be seen if this turns out to be true

where as on the other hand Game Pass could allow Nintendo to get games that they maybe otherwise wouldn't have seen on Switch like big AAA games (and we've already seen them testing it out with streaming only versions in Japan)

damn this is wild to think about the possibilities and what it could all mean for the future of the industry 



CaptainExplosion said:
shikamaru317 said:

Possibly, but the gain for Nintendo is also potentially huge. Switch as it is, is getting barely any AAA 3rd party support due to it's low specs relative to PS4 and XB1, and that will only get worse once PS5 and Scarlett release and graphics advance even further, xCloud would allow Nintendo to continue offering AAA games on Switch into the early years of next gen. Nintendo and MS could form a symbiotic relationship with MS putting some of their exclusives onto Switch and AAA 3rd parties onto Switch via xCloud streaming, while Nintendo returns the favor by putting ports of some of their games onto Xbox. 

I understand the idea, but I won't get my hopes up for this. Even if they, say let us play Banjo-Kazooie and/or GoldenEye on Switch.

Also, another possible benefit for Nintendo in such a partnership would be that MS could help them get their online service up to snuff, since it is kind of sad right now. MS has alot more experience with online. 



shikamaru317 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

I understand the idea, but I won't get my hopes up for this. Even if they, say let us play Banjo-Kazooie and/or GoldenEye on Switch.

Also, another possible benefit for Nintendo in such a partnership would be that MS could help them get their online service up to snuff, since it is kind of sad right now. MS has alot more experience with online. 

Seriously though, would we finally get a re-release of GoldenEye and Banjo-Kazooie on Switch? Maybe Banjo for Smash?



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HylianSwordsman said:
shikamaru317 said:

The report specifically mentions Ori and the Blind Forest as a possibility for direct porting to Switch. Some other possibilities that might make sense for Switch imo:

-Rare Replay
-Battletoads
-Super Lucky's Tale (already rumored for Switch by another source)
-ReCore (developed by former Metroid Prime devs)
-Cuphead

All of this, please.

I must say though, if something like this happens, I won't need to buy an Xbox. Wouldn't Microsoft be crazy to do this? I mean unless they're transitioning their game division's business model to sell a service instead of software or hardware, which would be a fairly Microsoft move to make, and would make a Nintendo-Microsoft partnership much more feasible. Hardware wise, if Microsoft wants to continue selling Xbox hardware, having Nintendo exclusives and Microsoft exclusives on each other's systems would only work if Microsoft only develops the high end home console hardware while Nintendo develops only lower end and portable/hybrid software. Sharing technology would be promising though, as Nintendo could get Microsoft's Hololens and Microsoft would get Nintendo's controller innovation. I think overall though, Nintendo would be making out way better than Microsoft here, at least in the hardware and software businesses. Microsoft would get most of its money out of the deal selling Game Passes and Xbox Live subscriptions. But then why would Nintendo be investing in their own online service if this sort of partnership is in the pipeline?

I would love to see a partnership like that. Switch basically becoming Microsoft's handheld, and Xbox basically becoming Nintendo's home console. If Google does release a next-gen console like some rumors suggest they will, Google could be very steep competition next-gen since they have alot of money to throw around and moneyhat studios and exclusives with. Such a partnership between Nintendo and Microsoft could be their best chance of surviving in a 4 console market. 



CaptainExplosion said:
shikamaru317 said:

Also, another possible benefit for Nintendo in such a partnership would be that MS could help them get their online service up to snuff, since it is kind of sad right now. MS has alot more experience with online. 

Seriously though, would we finally get a re-release of GoldenEye and Banjo-Kazooie on Switch? Maybe Banjo for Smash?

There have been some rumors of Microsoft possibly making a Banjo-Kazooie 3 next gen, if it happens I could see it releasing on Switch as well if this partnership does come through.

GoldenEye anything is doubtful, GoldenEye was missing from Rare Replay for a reason. The rights expired long ago and reverted to the movie studio that owns the James Bond IP afaik.  



CaptainExplosion said:
Wyrdness said:

Problem is the move is smart in that it gives MS more market penetration regardless of their hardware sales, Switch is already a platform where people double dip and it can easily be passed off as buy the Xbox version for higher fidelity or the Switch versions for portability of MS titles. It essentially turns Switch units into Xbox units granting them access to the portable market while allowing Switch more titles in its library, they're working on Live support for the platform so this wouldn't surprise me and would be a smart move by them.

But won't it hurt Nintendo somehow?

It won't as it helps push the Switch as a platform as MS essentially would be third party support it mainly targets Sony as for them it would mean NS and Xbox would be a sort of pseudo unified platform. Keep in mind with the NS being a hybrid the portable market consistently hits 75m plus units with a good potential for 100m now add what any future Xbox platform may sell on top of that and that is the potential consumer base Sony would be up against with this move it's very forward thinking as it adds one competitor's userbase to their own, it's as smart as Nintendo turning the portable market into a factor for the home console market with a hybrid form factor.



Wyrdness said:
CaptainExplosion said:

But won't it hurt Nintendo somehow?

It won't as it helps push the Switch as a platform as MS essentially would be third party support it mainly targets Sony as for them it would mean NS and Xbox would be a sort of pseudo unified platform. Keep in mind with the NS being a hybrid the portable market consistently hits 75m plus units with a good potential for 100m now add what any future Xbox platform may sell on top of that and that is the potential consumer base Sony would be up against with this move it's very forward thinking.

Ok, I'll take your word for it, but I'll remain cautious.



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I don't think Nintendo will publish games on Xbox. Just the fact that game pass is on Switch is a big step for Microsoft, because more platforms for game pass will generate more subscribers and more money for Microsoft. Also this can generate more Xbox sales for Microsoft, as the switch owners might be interested in buyng an Xbox One, One X, Scarlet, etc.



     


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