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It's weird that Europe still buys so many PS4s but so little switches. I mean Europe really does drag switch down. It should at least be 80k there but no it's horrendous when you compare it to everywhere else. That one game that breaks switch totally into Europe will be the game changer, if it ever happens. Maybe animal crossing since they love games like that apparently. Switch basically owns US and Japan until new systems release so the only battlefield left to win for the youngest system is Europe but PS4 will not go down easy



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melbye said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
King back on the top already? I didn't think it would happen till at least mid to late Feb. Damn. So I did over estimate KH3 and RE 2 then. I figured they'd do wonders for PS4 because I consider them both huge games, at least they were to me.

Guess the time of the PS4 is over and people are ready to move on

I would say on the contrary. If console sales start to dwindle it is a sign many have bought into the platform and want to play games with it. Only a few are ready to move on. This is a critical point for console-makers each time. Start the new gen and try to push the new platform? Or wait a little and gain the profits off of a big established userbase with more games and services? Finding the right point to switch to next gen can be critical.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Heh, Japan and Europe view the Switch so differently. Japan is currently selling more Switches than all of Europe.

This shows how bad Nintendo in general performs in europe. Japan has 130 million inhabitants, europe has 750 million. Even if you only count the EU, that are over 500 million people. Nintendo really needs to step up their game in europe, it hurts them that they are so behind in this region.



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Eagle367 said:
It's weird that Europe still buys so many PS4s but so little switches. I mean Europe really does drag switch down. It should at least be 80k there but no it's horrendous when you compare it to everywhere else. That one game that breaks switch totally into Europe will be the game changer, if it ever happens. Maybe animal crossing since they love games like that apparently. Switch basically owns US and Japan until new systems release so the only battlefield left to win for the youngest system is Europe but PS4 will not go down easy

This year will have franchises that are known for its success on a handheld device (Fire emblem, Animal Crossing and Pokemon) so we'll really see how many of the 3DS crowd will buy the Switch if they have not already done so. 



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Eagle367 said:
It's weird that Europe still buys so many PS4s but so little switches. I mean Europe really does drag switch down. It should at least be 80k there but no it's horrendous when you compare it to everywhere else. That one game that breaks switch totally into Europe will be the game changer, if it ever happens. Maybe animal crossing since they love games like that apparently. Switch basically owns US and Japan until new systems release so the only battlefield left to win for the youngest system is Europe but PS4 will not go down easy

There's a reason why Europe is Sonyland, there is very little nostalgia for Nintendo in Europe when you look to the demographics of 30 year + as Sega (Mega Drive / Genesis) was pretty huge here. And in some countries much bigger than Nintendo.

Then Sony pretty much carried the mantle of being top dog ever since, to the point that non gamers will default to Playstation as the main word they associate to videogames.

So just on lack of nostalgia for the other competitors and complete mindshare take over by Sony across Europe, I don't see this situation changing anytime soon.

I think Nintendo would have to really change their "toy company" perception to be taken seriously as a competitor to Sony in Europe.



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what a minuscule margin this week, a real statistical tie.
And I'm quite happy to see them selling this strong in January.



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Eagle367 said:
It's weird that Europe still buys so many PS4s but so little switches. I mean Europe really does drag switch down. It should at least be 80k there but no it's horrendous when you compare it to everywhere else. That one game that breaks switch totally into Europe will be the game changer, if it ever happens. Maybe animal crossing since they love games like that apparently. Switch basically owns US and Japan until new systems release so the only battlefield left to win for the youngest system is Europe but PS4 will not go down easy

For me it is much worse how little Japan cares about traditional consoles...

Thank god the devs started caring about WW market so we still get releases, because otherwise a lot of good Japanese content would be gone on consoles.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ljink96 said:
OTBWY said:
PS4 with Kingdom Hearts 3 and RE2? It's shouldn't have been this close, or hell, just below the Switch.

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My thoughts exactly, kinda expected PS4 to obliterate Switch, especially with how relatively slow Switch's January and February have been. I guess more than anything it's a telling sign that it's time for PS5 to be ushered in. Still though, great numbers for both.  It's just a tad surprising. 

Well, PS4 is obliterating Switch in Europe, while Switch a bit better in NA.  Switch is slighty above in the Global only thanks to Japan, and you know, Japan gave up on Home Consoles, they only play mobile games and portable, doesn't matter if you have or you don't have new games. We already know that, it's not a surprise.  Furthermore, PS4 entered its 6 years in the life cycle, and though it's a miracle Home Console, it cannot pull out 18M per year forever.   Sony are now focusing on Next Gen, on PS5, and after winning this Generation, they are getting ready for the Next big thing.  PS4 is still very healthy and profitable, that's the only important thing Sony do care about.   



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Eagle367 said:
It's weird that Europe still buys so many PS4s but so little switches. I mean Europe really does drag switch down. It should at least be 80k there but no it's horrendous when you compare it to everywhere else. That one game that breaks switch totally into Europe will be the game changer, if it ever happens. Maybe animal crossing since they love games like that apparently. Switch basically owns US and Japan until new systems release so the only battlefield left to win for the youngest system is Europe but PS4 will not go down easy

Well, from a German PC hardware forum I could get that they consider the Switch mostly too pricey and too weak (well, many consider the One X too weak there, it's a site for high-end PC gaming and upgrading after all, but the Switch is special case there). However, they do see the game lineup and consider it worthwhile if the price comes down. It should be noted though that a PS4 is generally cheaper to find there than a Switch, as almost all the time at least somebody has a promotion on the PS4 going, but that's rarely the case with the Switch.

@Setsunatenshi: It's not just that, it's also their background as Computer gamers. They are used to higher-end graphics, a department where Nintendo traditionally lags behind. Also, much more Playstation ads than Nintendo ads there.



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