Well my memory got me then, because I do remember a claim of they having 5B of investment at the start of the gen. But if I was wrong sorry.

And yes googling it I had just this https://www.polygon.com/2013/5/29/4375392/microsoft-has-1-billion-to-invest-in-exclusive-xbox-one-titles on the 1B you mentioned. Although I don't remember they having 8 new IPs and 15 exclusives on launch, but maybe some were smaller games that we just don't remember.

I don't think we will be free of Don having influenced the design of the nextbox because they start developing a new system as soon as the current one launches.

On People saying Phill haven't promissed in the past https://www.polygon.com/2015/4/20/8456445/phil-spencer-e3-2015-first-party-exclusive-games and also don't remember there being that many 1st party on their E3 on that year.

https://www.destructoid.com/-paying-for-third-party-exclusives-isn-t-our-long-term-strategy-says-xbox-s-phil-spencer-297090.phtml

http://hardwareblitz.com/microsoft-invested-expanding-first-party-studios-says-phil-spencer/

http://fortune.com/2014/04/25/new-xbox-head-phil-spencer-discusses-evolving-games-industry/ and this one is funny when talking about the mistakes of the reveal he doesn't criticize the ideas they had on what Xbox should be nor the mandate Kinect, he said they could have made their vision more clear. So here also goes that defense of Spencer having fought back and nothing Don Mattrick done being also on his responsability.

You can consider all you want. But when all deals get closed/announced pig backed it is quite hard to believe they all started around the same time and finished together. Even more when we hear cases of one of the studios selling because they had a hard time on cash even with success of Senua, which is a recent game. Or devs that were from other company, got independent and them bought on a short time.

Also it really wouldn't take 3 years to increase or open additional teams.

I'm glad you have enough common sense to back away from your previous comments on Xbox Games Studios.

Yes, I always believe that Meta score is completely justify. The Meta Score always adjust to remove the odd ball super negative or super positive reviews. Consumer should know what they are getting and I don't think anyone that don't want to support the developer and have more similar content should pay full retail price. 

They showed a lot of first party stuff at E3 2015. Gears 4, Halo 5, Forza, Fable, ReCore, Gears Ultimate, Cuphead, Rare Replay, and Sea of Thieves. That's nine games. Also remember that Papa Phil considers anything with a partnership to be first party, so thats why he'd consider Cuphead first party. That's a ton of content.

The rest of your links don't provide an ounce of credibility to your argument. Did you even read them? The only relevant one is the first one where he says that they will increase their commitment to first party studios... and it's from 2018, aka last year, the year they bought like 6 studios. The second one discusses no more buying third party exclusives and that seems to be the case? Maybe I'm mistaken but I can't think of any after Tomb Raider. The last one is mostly generic PR stuff throwing out names of exclusive launch window games and other exclusives not released yet.

So in those links, in one he said they were going to commit harder to their studios and they went out and bought a bunch of them. What a liar. /s

You can believe all you want but without actually knowing you are just making an assumption on what you think happen not actually knowing anything.  So until you actually know, why don't you table that opinion until you can find proof. I will be the first to say I have no clue and I will not form an opinion until I actually have more information then a gut check.  

How do you know how long it takes to increase a team with talent then just filling it with a head count.  Also how do you know how long it would take to get a quality team instead of just filling a position.  Just wondering where you are getting your metric from because I know from my development house we have gone through many people over the years in interviews and only hired 2 people in 3 years.

Just as a general statement, y'all need to stop devaluing negative reviews just so you can feel good about yourselves.

Bad or middling reviews don't mean a game doesn't have value. A game can get a 5/10 and still be enjoyable for certain people, you know. A game like this which has an average review aggregate around 60% means that it's overall not good (especially when compared to other games similar to it, within its genre, or overall), but that doesn't mean it's not fun. There are people out there who LOVE Fallout 76, and that was a dumpster fire of a game.

That doesn't mean it was a good game.

I actually kinda feel sorry for anyone desperate enough to cling to such small victories. What sort of gaming life do you have that THIS is the hill you want to die upon?

Furthermore, Xbox just can't catch a break. Three of its last four exclusives (State of Decay 2, Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon 4, and Crackdown 3) all had bad to terrible reviews, ESPECIALLY compared to PS4 and Switch. When Sony's putting out games like God of War and Spider-Man while Nintendo is putting out stuff like Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and Octopath Traveler, it's kind of sad to see the only great game to come out on Xbox One over the past two years has been Forza.

I did a bit of digging on GameRankings (I prefer it to MetaCritic, personally; way easier to sort and search for what I'm looking for and 2 more decimal places) and I found the following data in 2018. Now, these are for console exclusives, not including PC or last-gen/portable games, just games that exist solely on PS4 but not on Switch/Xbox One, On Switch but not PS4/Xbox One, or on Xbox One but not PS4/Switch. They also needed to have 20 or more reviews to be counted (Sadly few indies for this reason; had to be consistent with the rules; that sad we both know that PS4 and Switch would be GREATLY helped if I lowered the review threshold). So, for exclusives, we have:

Sony had 4 games with a 90% or higher
Nintendo had 1 game with 90% or higher
Microsoft had 1 game with 90% or higher

Sony had 9 games with 85% or higher
Nintendo had 3 games with 85% or higher
Microsoft had 1 game with 90% or higher.

Sony had 12 games with 80% or higher
Nintendo had 6 games with 80% or higher
Microsoft had 1 game with 80% or higher (Seeing a pattern here?)

Sony had 13 games with 75% or higher
Nintendo had 11 games with 75% or higher
Microsoft had 1 game with 75% or higher (Still only Forza Horizon 4)

Sony had 14 games with 70% or higher
Nintendo had 14 games with 70% or higher
Microsoft had....drum roll please........1 game with 70% or higher.

Now, some of those games went multiplatform this year or will be (HEre's looking at you, Dragon Quest XI), but for 2018, those are the stats. As you can see, Sony and Nintendo had a BUNCH of exclusive titles to come out on their respective platform. anything under 70% tends to be overlooked (I used to only go 80% or higher, then down to 75% and now 70%, but I don't see myself going down any farther than that since at this point we start to get to games that aren't that well liked at all, even if the 'reviews' had them pegged as 'decent').

So when people criticize Microsoft for not having any exclusives, that's why. They released a few games in 2018 and 2019, so here are Microsoft's Exclusives that got 20 reviews or more and their GameRankings %:

92.24% - Forza Horizon 4
67.68% - Sea of Thieves
65.67% - State of Decay 2
61.57% - Crackdown 3

Not only is that number low (only 4 games), but outside of Forza they're all middling to poorly reviewed. Does that mean the games lack value? Hell no, wanton destruction or squad-based pirating have their place, as do zombie survival games...they're just not good examples of that.

Point is: Dynasty Warriors 9 got better reviews than Crackdown 3, and even Jim Sterling hated that game and he's a total lover of that franchise!

So yeah, that's the bottom line. Microsoft's exclusives suck lately. They have for years. Even if you go back to 2017 to add Cuphead, Forza 7, and Halo Wars 2, it still pales in comparison to the output of either PS4 or Switch. Xbox One, spread between 2017, 2018, and 2019 doesn't compare to a single year of either PS4 or Switch. Nintendo, in less than 2 full years, has already got an exclusive lineup far better than what Xbox One has accrued in more than five years. That there, that's a problem. Maybe instead of clinging to your brand loyalty, it might be time to jump ship. No point in being sunk with it. 

P.S. Super Lucky's Tail, which came out in 2017 and therefore wasn't involved in this discussion for the most part, got 63.95%, making THAT game get better reviews than crackdown.)

Please elucidate to me how "partnering" is 1st party and isn't buying third party content (or did you want to say timed exclusive?).

And then they had a lot of games to announce but few to release on that and coming years?

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So yeah, that's the bottom line. Microsoft's exclusives suck lately. They have for years. Even if you go back to 2017 to add Cuphead, Forza 7, and Halo Wars 2, it still pales in comparison to the output of either PS4 or Switch. Xbox One, spread between 2017, 2018, and 2019 doesn't compare to a single year of either PS4 or Switch. Nintendo, in less than 2 full years, has already got an exclusive lineup far better than what Xbox One has accrued in more than five years. That there, that's a problem. Maybe instead of clinging to your brand loyalty, it might be time to jump ship. No point in being sunk with it.  

I'm glad you made this comment, because this is exactly what's happening with the "Alita: Battle Angel" film.

People just can't accept that it's a mediocre film, albeit with great visual effects. It's 60% Rotten Tomatoes score is completely justified - but fans of the manga vehemently and desperately defend their precious adaptation by cherry picking certain qualities. (i.e. "but this is how it was in the manga!" or "you should be thankful it was made in the first place!")

Like, just stop... It's perfectly fine if you enjoyed the movie. But your viewing experience doesn't forgo any and all due criticisms that ALL movies are subject to. And once Alita is put under scrutiny - the film just IS NOT a good movie. I've read the manga "GUNNM" and watched the 2 Episode anime OVA - it's not still not a good movie.

Sorry, I know this thread is about Crack Down 3.

We can point out other games' average times though, and come to a reasonable conclusion that Crackdown 3 is short for an open world game. 

Just as a general statement, y'all need to stop devaluing negative reviews just so you can feel good about yourselves.