I mentioned a previous discussion which had a direct connection to you talking about indie games in GOTYT award nominations, not "you hatin on PC", which has no such connection to this topic, that's the difference. Playing to a mirror argument again doesn't work here, so please, refrain from using one.

I don't need to know you when you already talk to everyone around here. Playing the "you don't know me" card doesn't absolve you from criticism. It's not even about "taste", wanting a AAA game to always win above an indie game isn't called a taste. Never said they were lesser people either, so let's get that out of the way. You're entering aggression mode at this very moment, if you didn't already know. Practice what you preach my dude. 

You recognize, yet you follow it up with..., rather than just a mere full stop and nothing more. Like I said, there is a big difference between a full stop and multiple dots. See, you're labeling it as some form of "direct attack", "help, this person is attacking me", kind of angle, again it will not suffice. I am merely pointing out that your wording was chosen poorly and that your previous bias remains, in regards to seeing someone wanting one game to win over 3-4 AAA's, otherwise you wouldn't be going with ..., you'd end it with .

@Bold, likewise mate. 

I hope you'll be the when we start seeing indies taking GOTY awards, since you're using that GoW retort back at me. 

You not knowing me is not to avoid criticism, is on you assuming things and being and taking positions based on it. But if it makes you happy keep it.

If Indies deserve the GOTY and win I won't have any problem with it.

Still waiting yours compliments to GoW since this is a thread about it.

No, me not knowing you outside of the net, of things not even related to gaming isn't on me, because it is entirely irreverent to this conversation. 

It does not make me happy nor sad, nor do I have a desire to "keep it", especially when based off of few observations made. 

If you don't mind, then does that mean you rescind your previous statement made between you and eva on indies winning GOTY awards?. 

You assume wrong that I consider my taste as law, anything and all you supposed based on that is factual wrong but you prefer to pretend otherwise to make your impression more important than the reality. You say it doesn't change anything for you but you keep doing, curious.

I sure don't mind if they win in the future. It still doesn't change the fact that today a game like Celeste doesn't hold against GoW and that if judge on same merits it would get lower score. Why do you think it didn't get nearly similar number of GOTY nominations and wins besides Indie category?

Won't reply any other post until you give your impressions of GoW and of course your card with trophies on the game.

It's not that I assume wrong, it's that I don't care about what you do outside of this forum, that factually matters little to this discussion. Basing on what you've said prior to this conversation, in relation to the talk of indies however is what it is.

Call it pretending all you want, but it doesn't stop the fact that you've previously stated you don't see indie's as being worth a win for the GOTY awards, simply because they are not exactly like AAA games. There is simply no scrubbing that from what was said before between you and eva. If you want indies to win and gladly want them to, then you will rescind your previous talk right here and now.

I said Indies that have released so far aren't GOTY material on my opinion, I don't have any crystal ball to know if in the future any will.

See, I'm honest in what I said before, about the last wording of my last sentence. You on the other hand like to change things up. A few weeks ago you were saying you didn't like the idea of indies winning nor being a part of the ceremony, because you think they don't match up, and thus need to match up and be compared to another level of the same medium. Now you suddenly want them to win, only because I decided to intervene and question you within this thread. if that wasn't the case and I was wrong, then why, if I can kindly ask of you, did you make the statement previously discussed between you and eva?. Did you just magically change your mind on that brief exchange between the two of you, and you didn't decide to go forward with that new way of thought, or do you want to cling to it and claim you're for the other medium now?.

You may have a hard time interpreting things. I don't want something that was evaluated on lesser basis to be equated to something that had harsher evaluation. If an Indie can sustain itself against the GOTY contenders then certainly they can enter a contest. Seems like you need things explained in a strange way to understand. I certainly welcome that Indies evolve to the point they can seriously contend, but don't think they do at the moment. Can it be any easier than that to understand?

If you don't mind, then you'll not need to add ... in the future or wording like "some even wanting it to take GOTY instead of GoW, Spider-Man and RDR2."

You know that ... can be used for different situations right? One of then is not continue to elaborate that line of though and just go to another one. Not sure you want to get your interpretation of what I wrote above what I'm saying I wrote. Seems like I want my taste to be law but you want your interpretation of others to be the truth instead of what that person said.

It doesn't matter that an indie game isn't on GoW's level, because quite frankly, no game has to be. You completely misunderstand what art is and what it can come off as to others out there, not just gamers, but other artists as well. It doesn't have to be a game that looks like it's trying to imitate reality (hence the graphical focus GoW tries to roll with, over say a cell shaded style or one based on ye-old Disney animation style). You judge other games far, far too harshly and don't even include the style of art they use. Have you never drawn anything before, or lent a few thoughts to appreciating good art?, is gaming the only medium you ever look at daily, in order to judge something by looks alone?.

I have no idea where you are coming from. It isn't about looking like GoW on realism, as games with different styles can certainly go for GOTY. There have been GOTY contenders of different styles, but all I remember where really pushing the technical envelope and looking the best out there.

Who says an indie in the future won't get any more nominations?. YOu seem cock-sure that no indie game will get many nominations in the future. The future, like I have to continue telling Azz, is not written in stone, none of us have a crystal ball that tells us what is definitely the "one true" future, because there is none.

You again putting words in others mouth.

Thanks for the last sentence cop-out reply btw, very mature of you. I hope you don't pull that trite with LudicrousSpeed in the other thread, because that would be telling of you. 

How many times will you switch between saying other threads shouldn't be brought, then bring it yourself?

Now I'll honor what I said and until you give your opinion on GoW accompanied of your trophy list on the game I won't reply.