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Forums - Sales Discussion - Playstation 4 is the 2nd best selling home console ever in the "Rest of the World"

Not surprised.

About the piracy stuff though... Brazil didn`t see official release of PS1 and PS2, so all our bootlegged consoles were actually accounted in USA because that was where grey market picked them at the time to sell through Paraguay, modded in Brazil and sold to customers.

So in the end RotW is even bigger and USA smaller.

And even though piracy helped PS1 and PS2 exposition in 3rd world, on total amount of piracy you can bet USA and Europe had more than South America, and even without piracy they would have won (as shown by PS3 and PS4) just would have sold considerably less. Mind you that other consoles also had piracy as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Evilms said:

Rest of the world = PlayStation land since the PSX.

 

PS2 : 25.57 m

PS4 : 16.21 m

PSP : 15.26 m

PS3 : 12.46 m

PS1 : 9.04 m

PSV : 2.41 m

PSX is a wrong monicker for PS1, there is actually a PSX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(digital_video_recorder)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

zorg1000 said:
Shadow1980 said:

For the console to be hacked, someone has to buy a new legit console from a retailer. And if they sell that hacked console, that doesn't count towards sales figures. Second-hand sales are never tracked. They don't count as part of shipment figures, and they're not part of the retail chain tracked by the likes of NPD or Media Create. Therefore, none of the 155M PS2s counted in that total were hacked systems when shipped to retailers or initially sold to customers at said retailers. Therefore, the PS2s sales total was not inflated by hacked systems.

I dont think you are quite understanding him. A console getting hacked increases demand in these smaller, poorer countries. Hes not saying that Sony is shipping hacked consoles.

This is irrelevant, really. All systems are eligible for hacking, so it is just another facet of demand for a machine. It's all comparable.



No. PS3 was not as hackable as PS2 and it got hacked at the end of its life. I don't know about hacked PS4s and also is not the same as before as people love playing online much more than they use to. And with PS4 you'll probably get a bricked console, thing that didn't happen with PS2. So PS2 numbers were up much more than PS3 and even more than PS4 because of piracy.. In south Americq most people play Fifa with friends and you need to be online for that.



Interesting :)



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Where is ps1?
I thought it was somewhere in top 3



jonathanalis said:
Where is ps1?
I thought it was somewhere in top 3

PS1 added.



Thanks!



Let me tell you something, around 80% of people in south america buy their consoles in the US



And now ? : D What do you mean ? @Pachofilauri