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Dulfite on 08 February 2019

I just got the i5 over i7 windows surface 2. Everything I read basically said the i7 is only about 6% faster, eats more battery, and costs hundreds more. I'm not disappointed in my purchase, though it will primarily be used for me writing books and my wife and I watching shows.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 09 February 2019
Dulfite said:
I just got the i5 over i7 windows surface 2. Everything I read basically said the i7 is only about 6% faster, eats more battery, and costs hundreds more. I'm not disappointed in my purchase, though it will primarily be used for me writing books and my wife and I watching shows.

Those are Y series processors, not H series. And yes, in the Y series, there's little difference between the i3,i5 and i7 because the low TDP (around 7W maximum) just doesn't allow for much in between. It's also very misleading, as an Y series i7 gets trashed by any U series i3 and would get trashed by an H series Celeron if Intel would make those.

In fact, for your purpose, you could have chosen the base configuration, I don't think the performance would have suffered at all.



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EricHiggin on 09 February 2019
Cobretti2 said:
EricHiggin said:

That's a nice unit. Good specs for the price. Like Bb said, another stick of RAM would really complete that unit. 32GB probably wouldn't be all that much overkill a few years down the road, if any, based on what your looking to use it for. When the price is right it would be a nice upgrade and would also give you dual channel, which should give you a nice performance boost as well.

Ram upgrade is def on the cards. I do that always with the laptops I get.

I kept further reading to see if RTX2080 was worth it or not

https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2070-Laptop-vs-GeForce-RTX-2080-Laptop-vs-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-Desktop_9551_9541_9526.247598.0.html

Not sure if $1100 extra is worth a 20% performance boost on the GPU. Seems like logic went out the window here lol.

I guess it depends on how productive you really need to be, and how much your time is worth, but the 2070 seems to be the sweet spot in most cases, laptop or desktop RTX. Enough performance for a somewhat reasonable price. If the absolute highest level or productivity isn't exactly necessary, then I wouldn't bother dishing out the extra cash for that 2080. A third the cost of the entire laptop for a 20% or so GPU performance upgrade seems like the logical breaking point. Going beyond that would basically be for those who have money to burn and simply want the best.



Dulfite on 09 February 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Dulfite said:
I just got the i5 over i7 windows surface 2. Everything I read basically said the i7 is only about 6% faster, eats more battery, and costs hundreds more. I'm not disappointed in my purchase, though it will primarily be used for me writing books and my wife and I watching shows.

Those are Y series processors, not H series. And yes, in the Y series, there's little difference between the i3,i5 and i7 because the low TDP (around 7W maximum) just doesn't allow for much in between. It's also very misleading, as an Y series i7 gets trashed by any U series i3 and would get trashed by an H series Celeron if Intel would make those.

In fact, for your purpose, you could have chosen the base configuration, I don't think the performance would have suffered at all.

To my knowledge, they don't sell an i3 surface laptop 2? Oh well, in the past now if they do. I certainly didn't see one when looking online or at the store.



RetroGamer94 on 09 February 2019

I have a MSI Gp73 Leopard 8RE. It’s pretty great and wasn’t that expensive. I use it both for work and for gaming.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 09 February 2019
Dulfite said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Those are Y series processors, not H series. And yes, in the Y series, there's little difference between the i3,i5 and i7 because the low TDP (around 7W maximum) just doesn't allow for much in between. It's also very misleading, as an Y series i7 gets trashed by any U series i3 and would get trashed by an H series Celeron if Intel would make those.

In fact, for your purpose, you could have chosen the base configuration, I don't think the performance would have suffered at all.

To my knowledge, they don't sell an i3 surface laptop 2? Oh well, in the past now if they do. I certainly didn't see one when looking online or at the store.

Also, you sure it's the Surface 2 and not a Surface Book 2 or Surface Laptop 2? 'Cause the Surface 2 came out in 2013...



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

Dulfite on 09 February 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Dulfite said:

To my knowledge, they don't sell an i3 surface laptop 2? Oh well, in the past now if they do. I certainly didn't see one when looking online or at the store.

Also, you sure it's the Surface 2 and not a Surface Book 2 or Surface Laptop 2? 'Cause the Surface 2 came out in 2013...

I said surface laptop 2. Brand new. Came out like last few months of 2018.



Cobretti2 on 09 February 2019

Well the more you read the more things you learn lol

7nm GPU chipset coming end of 2020 claiming 35% improvement over 12nm.

Not sure my current laptop will last that long in its current state lol.

Anyone know what a resale value of a 2 year old gaming laptop would be of say and MSI GE75? 20% less of RRP? 50% less RRP? Anyone got experience selling their older model and price drop?

I am thinking still buy now as the currently laptop probably will last 3months tops. Then wait maybe a year for 7nm tech to mature and purchase another end of 2021 if the GE75 don't devalue by more then say 50% hmm.