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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Sales week 5, January 28 - February 3 , 2019

jonathanalis said:
Azelover said:

The japanese market ain't what it used to be. I blame mobile "gaming".

I think the Switch is probably Japan's best chance at a recovery, but it isn't good enough yet..

Switch is still expensive (and not as handheld) as 3ds and vita. 

A cheaper mini switch, along with animal crossing and new pokemon gen can put it to a good form. 

Yes. The Switch is doing PSP numbers right now. And everything else is way below it.

In 2005/06 the DS was selling half a million a month, and that was outside holidays. We have come a long way and now most of these gamers have adopted mobile, which in my opinion isn't real gaming. This happened back in the late PS2 days as well, because the users were engaging with DVD video through the PS2, aand that was shrinking the market for VideoGames in Japan. But Nintendo was able to re-energize the market with the DS

Nintendo has to keep growing, and just do a lot better in the future. I don't believe Sony has the goods to revive the market anymore. I'm not expecting anything from them anymore in terms of Japan. Just look at how KH3 and RE2Remake are doing, they're topping the charts but their sales are embarassing.



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Switch keeping it's YOY lead over 2018



Not much more to say about Japan at this point, the writing is on the wall.

PS4 is basically a spent force while Switch is headed for a virtual monopoly, at least as far as dedicated gaming devices are concerned.



xMetroid said:
Faelco said:

Wrong. 

Japan became a handheld and mobile land, and home consoles are becoming more and more a niche product for societal reasons. It's deeper than Nintendo VS Sony, it's the type of gaming changing. Mobile became bigger than console gaming IIRC, and the Switch might also hit a ceiling after a while. 

Still, Psvita flopped and Switch came out years after when the market is suppose to be worse, but is doing really well. Sure it's more gravitating towards mobile/handheld, but still Nintendo is succeeding with an hybrid console which is pretty expensive for a handheld in a market even worse where Sony failed with the vita.

Vita was a failure everywhere, not just Japan, and you have several reasons for this failure. The fact that it's Sony and not Nintendo have nothing to do with it. 

Vita also had good competition (3DS), while the Switch is the only handheld available. 

And are you going to ignore the failure of the Wii U? It's Nintendo though, but it sold almost twice less than the Vita...

It's not Nintendo/Sony, it's home console/handheld/mobile. That's a fact. 



The KH collection is having really great holds. I guess newer players are buying those first before going to KH3.



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abroZ said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I actually think both can pass it at the same week

Pretty sure both games are already above 3m including digital. As for who was first probably splatoon. In retail it will be very close.  In the long run splatoon will be the bigger seller I think. 

Yes, both are, but I meant just by the weekly MC numbers



Yikes at the drop for both Kingdom Hearts and Resident Evil.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is FFXV all over again, its gonna take a while to cross a million and not without some deep discounts.

Resident Evil might not even cross 500K.

PS4 drop was awful and this the second of its two biggest games of the year.



That KH3 drop is disappointing but I guess it kinda was to be expected *sigh* I still hope it reches 1 million with digital.



Azelover said:
jonathanalis said:

Switch is still expensive (and not as handheld) as 3ds and vita. 

A cheaper mini switch, along with animal crossing and new pokemon gen can put it to a good form. 

Yes. The Switch is doing PSP numbers right now. And everything else is way below it.

In 2005/06 the DS was selling half a million a month, and that was outside holidays. We have come a long way and now most of these gamers have adopted mobile, which in my opinion isn't real gaming. This happened back in the late PS2 days as well, because the users were engaging with DVD video through the PS2, aand that was shrinking the market for VideoGames in Japan. But Nintendo was able to re-energize the market with the DS

Nintendo has to keep growing, and just do a lot better in the future. I don't believe Sony has the goods to revive the market anymore. I'm not expecting anything from them anymore in terms of Japan. Just look at how KH3 and RE2Remake are doing, they're topping the charts but their sales are embarassing.

It is amazing that third-party companies can not read the market. The Switch is selling well without them, imagine what it would be like if Nintendo had support like a PSP? Or even Psvita? Just look at the trajectory. Nintendo never, I say NEVER lost in their handheld division. Nintendo crushes all competition, in portable scene. The console is part portable, how would a resounding failure like was the WiiU or Gamecube if it also part of the area of ​​greater success of nintendo? How can a console unifying two-console libraries fail if one of these libraries has never been lost in any generation of video game history?

Atelier spin-off flopped pretty hard, I wonder why.