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curl-6 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Breath of the Wild is not sized up for it's story in the same way The Last of Us is ... let's be honest, a Naughty Dog game with a mediocre story is a huge blow, a Nintendo game with a mediocre story is expected. 

I personally think that The Last of Us has a great story despite the fact that I don't view it as very innovative.

I think it's more a matter of story being front and centre in TLoU while BOTW prioritizes exploration and mechanical experimentation. Story tends to be the steak in Sony's first party efforts while in Nintendo's its the side garnish.

That's actually exactly what I meant, lol :P 

Maybe I just didn't explain it well, but that's what I mean when I use terms like "sized up" or "expectations". For Sony and especially Naughty Dog games, the things that people judge the game on are very often different than what they judge Nintendo games on, because the expectations and the point of the games is often very different. 



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Spike0503 said:
I don't get the dismissals and the joke posts from some people here. I can definitely see your point. While Zelda is not really my thing, BotW has been a terrific success so it could embody Nintendo as a whole for the coming years. TLoU was a big hit and it has definitely embodied Sony for a while now.

I feel that the Game that embodied Sony even though I couldn't get into the last few games was Uncharted and now that it's pretty much run it's race, it's a two way race between TLoU and GOW, but I feel if we are talking differing approaches to games that involve post apocalyptic worlds then from Sony's side  Horizon fits the bill better than TLoU, since both Horizon and BotW involve larger and more open worlds than TLoU and  both have tower mapping, and while all 3 post apocalyptic games look back at the past, Alloy and Links journey's have a deep connection to why and how their  present worlds came to be.



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Seems like a oversimplification that holds very little real-world meaning when we have plenty of games that don't fit that mold.



mjk45 said:
Spike0503 said:
I don't get the dismissals and the joke posts from some people here. I can definitely see your point. While Zelda is not really my thing, BotW has been a terrific success so it could embody Nintendo as a whole for the coming years. TLoU was a big hit and it has definitely embodied Sony for a while now.

I feel that the Game that embodied Sony even though I couldn't get into the last few games was Uncharted and now that it's pretty much run it's race, it's a two way race between TLoU and GOW, but I feel if we are talking differing approaches to games that involve post apocalyptic worlds then from Sony's side  Horizon fits the bill better than TLoU, since both Horizon and BotW involve larger and more open worlds than TLoU and  both have tower mapping, and while all 3 post apocalyptic games look back at the past, Alloy and Links journey's have a deep connection to why and how their  present worlds came to be.

I agree that Uncharted used to be the Sony game until TLoU came around. GoW has had an impact for sure but I'd say that the newest game has some TLoU influences.

I don't disagree that Horizon's gameplay and setting is more similar to BotW than TLoU but that wasn't really my point. Horizon, although successful, wasn't the megaton on gaming that TLoU's success was. I feel like both TLoU and BotW have the same caliber of impact on gaming as a whole, that was my point.



I actually think Mario Odyssey, Smash Bros Ultimate, or Mario Kart 8 would be a better example here as far as epitomising Nintendo's approach to gaming in the way that TLOU epitomises Sony's. As great as BOTW is its something of a unique entry in Nintendo's catalogue, rather than being an embodiment of their overall philosophy.



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Kerotan said:
Pavolink said:
Unlike other people, I found the story in the TLoU very cliche, while the atmosphere and gameplay was very very very very good. Add in there Joel and Ellie as an iconic couple.

And what else can I say about BotW.

Is zeldas story not just as cliche as TLOU? 

Not to me. Liked the dark tone of it, the destruction and sadness, especially from Zelda’s perspective of losing almost everything.



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KrspaceT said:

Been thinking on things for a while, in part the nature of 'the end' and how Last of Us and Breath of the Wild are both post apoc stories with very different feels to them. 

Also titles that end one console and start another, and both being major sellers, and both representing high points, etc etc and etc. 

I am not the best at describing feels, but I do feel like the two represent their specific companies (Sony and Nintendo) fairly well. Can you see where I might be coming from, and possibly even put it into the words I cannot.

The Last of Us is one of my favorites. Just haven't played the Breath of the Wild and even didn't read about. Gonna do that currently and then I'll understand what you are trying to say.

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It’s been interesting seeing how the success of ND narrative driven games has kind of seeped into Sony’s other studios and changed the development philosophy of the company. You’re right that the two games showcase those different philosophies.

To me the main difference here outside of obvious genre is that if you remove the narrative from LoU you’re left with a game with pretty average at best gameplay. It’s more about experiencing the game than playing it, like all ND games have become. Zelda on the other hand you can remove the narrative and it’s still full of engaging gameplay, challenging puzzles, open world sandbox, etc etc.



Pavolink said:
Kerotan said:

Is zeldas story not just as cliche as TLOU? 

Not to me. Liked the dark tone of it, the destruction and sadness, especially from Zelda’s perspective of losing almost everything.

You just described the last of us. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Kerotan said:

Is zeldas story not just as cliche as TLOU? 

 

PAOerfulone said:

Breath of the Wild's story was just as, if not more cliche. The weakest aspect of the game in my view.

Breath of the Wild is not sized up for it's story in the same way The Last of Us is ... let's be honest, a Naughty Dog game with a mediocre story is a huge blow, a Nintendo game with a mediocre story is expected. 

I personally think that The Last of Us has a great story despite the fact that I don't view it as very innovative.

But no points reduced on review because of it...



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