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colafitte said:
Nate4Drake said:
The only thing Sony have to do with PS5 is to make it BC, and keep releasing new IP and great exclusives. They already learnt a lesson with PS3, and the Next hardware will be very powerful, friendly to develop for and not expensive at Launch. All the rest will follow smoothly.

I really can't understand the reasons behind the "paranoia" of some members here...

Even if they botched the BC for PS5, PS5 won't be another PS3.

PS3 started bad, not only because their own mistakes, but because its main competitor, X360, started realllly strong. By  2004-2006 XB brand was turning the table in USA. The original XB was very well regarded in US by the time X360 launched thanks to Halo and XB Live, so when X360 launched it had a momentum PS3 didn't in US. That affected PS3 a lot of the sales in the US and the fact thar PS3 didn't launch in Europe until 2007 didn't help the impression of the bad launch. And launching at the same time as Wii either...

XBO did not ended as good as the original XB, so there isn't the same hype for the next XB as it was with X360. Playstation during 2006-2007 was just a culminations of missteps from Sony combined with succesful ones from Microsoft and Nintendo. It was the perfect storm. 2020 and 2021 are not pointing in the same direction. XB brand is not something new and fascinating anymore and Nintendo is not launching their new and revolutionary console at the same time.

PS5 will be fine, whatever Sony decides PS5 to be. The real question is..., how much succesful can Sony make PS5 at launch in my opinion. My guess?, they are going to break records at launch, by 6 months, by 12 months, .... like PS4 did but better.

I perfectly understand your point, and I was too lazy to elaborate mine.

 PS3 was not in a very comfortable situation, as MS rushed a bit XBox360, releasing it 1 year before, I believe without "completing" all the test on the machine(The ring of death), in order to beat Sony on the head start.  Now, even though 360 didn't sell extraordinary well the first year, it managed to establish a very good reputation, mostly in NA, and from the second year, it really started to shine with better multiplatform games VS PS3, and a very competitive price, much much lower than PS3;  things were not going very well for Sony, it was last behind 360 and Wii, the king of casual gamers.  Only with the release of PS3 Slim in September 2009, Sony started "to recover the lost ground", devs started to learn more the complex architecture, and multiplatform games finally were gradually on pair with the 360 counterpart and later on, even better in some cases.  So, even considering the above mentioned problems, PS3 managed to take the lead in Europe and be second Worldwide at the end of its life cycle, while 360 the king in NA, and Wii 1st in the Global and Japan.

  So I agree with you 100%, and my only "concern" is :"how much successfull PS5 will be at Launch?"  Like PS4 ?  More ? A lot more? Microscopically less ? 

 I would say more, just a guess.



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colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

So it had a stronger start and better reception despite selling roughly the same in the same time frame?

It had a better reception and recognition during PS3 launch because X360 was in a better situation thanks to Gears of War, XB Live, Halo 3 hype and some other amazing exclusives that were coming in 2007 among other thing, yes. 

I'm not considering "start" just launch month or the first 6 months..."Start" to me is everything during the very first years of a console. X360 had a good 2006 and 2007 was even better. When people says PS3 had a rough start they don't mean only 2006, or 2007 even.

I really don't understand why you are so against of what i'm saying. Are you saying that the situation after 12 months were the same for XB and X360???. Did XB entered 2003 in the same situation as X360 entering 2007? Because that's my point. That X360 was entering in overdrive mode just when PS3 launched and XB was admiting defeat against PS2 by the start of 2003....

I really don't think anyone discuss that the "best" and more vanguardist years for XB brand were during 2004-2008. I really don't understand this argument, but if you don't agree with me, i accept it. 

 

We're derailing the thread by the way. My point was made and i guess i can't explain it any better. 

 

 

Ok, not launch month or first 6 months, how about first 26 months?

Xbox end of 2003-13.7m

360 end of 2007-15.8m

It was doing better but not by any large degree, it wasnt until 2004/2008 that 360 really started pulling ahead.

Xbox end of 2004-19.9m

360 end of 2008-26.7m



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CGI-Quality said:
KBG29 said:

PS4 is slowing down, Xperia is sucking $1 Billion a year with no signs of slowing down, and Revenue is down on Bravia. Sony has not laid out a road map to demonstrate how they plan to continue growth or even maintain the same level of success with PS5 after the PS4 fades away.  Sony is looking quite weak right now. At the same time Microsoft is looking extremely strong, and new players are looking to enter the gaming space, with Amazon and Google both working on streaming services. PlayStation is Sony's most profitable, and quickest growing division, but that does not look set in stone going forward.

Sony is going to need to show how they plan, not only to continue the success of PS4, but also how they plan to continue to expand sales of PlayStation Hardware, PlayStation OS, PlayStation Network, PlayStation Store, and PlayStation Services. It is going to be a very interesting few years for Sony. They hype of PS4 is slowing, now they are going to have to get back to work.

LOL..



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zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

It had a better reception and recognition during PS3 launch because X360 was in a better situation thanks to Gears of War, XB Live, Halo 3 hype and some other amazing exclusives that were coming in 2007 among other thing, yes. 

I'm not considering "start" just launch month or the first 6 months..."Start" to me is everything during the very first years of a console. X360 had a good 2006 and 2007 was even better. When people says PS3 had a rough start they don't mean only 2006, or 2007 even.

I really don't understand why you are so against of what i'm saying. Are you saying that the situation after 12 months were the same for XB and X360???. Did XB entered 2003 in the same situation as X360 entering 2007? Because that's my point. That X360 was entering in overdrive mode just when PS3 launched and XB was admiting defeat against PS2 by the start of 2003....

I really don't think anyone discuss that the "best" and more vanguardist years for XB brand were during 2004-2008. I really don't understand this argument, but if you don't agree with me, i accept it. 

 

We're derailing the thread by the way. My point was made and i guess i can't explain it any better. 

 

 

Ok, not launch month or first 6 months, how about first 26 months?

Xbox end of 2003-13.7m

360 end of 2007-15.8m

It was doing better but not by any large degree, it wasnt until 2004/2008 that 360 really started pulling ahead.

Xbox end of 2004-19.9m

360 end of 2008-26.7m

I was going to ask you earlier if you had more numbers from the first years of both but i didn't want to make you work on it, so thank you for giving them now.

 

But my point was never focusing in raw numbers (selling numbers i mean). From my point of view  XB was in a more stronger position to beat PS by the PS3 launch than ever because they were doing things perfectly (except RROD of course). XB Live was revolutionary for consoles, X360 hardware was the best price/quality console, Gears of War was a huge and influential new exclusive IP, Halo 3 was growing up more than ever and the marketing for the game was PERFECT, pure hype, but more than that, was the look in the near future X360 give to consumers. by 2006 you could see X360 was going to be a far better console, thanks to an impressive work with 3rd party developers with games like Ghost Recon, Oblivion, GTA IV, DMC4, RE5,... and new and amazing exclusives coming in the future like Mass Effect, Bioshock, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, .... By 2007 people learned that PS was not the ultimate exclusive gaming console PS1 and PS2 were. X360 was going to have almost the same 3rd party games from the beginning. That was huge. That's why i said that Microsoft started better with X360. They knew how to defeat Sony and went to the jugular and in US it worked wonders.

X360 was great after 2008 thanks to all the work done during 2005-2007.



Nate4Drake said:
colafitte said:

Even if they botched the BC for PS5, PS5 won't be another PS3.

PS3 started bad, not only because their own mistakes, but because its main competitor, X360, started realllly strong. By  2004-2006 XB brand was turning the table in USA. The original XB was very well regarded in US by the time X360 launched thanks to Halo and XB Live, so when X360 launched it had a momentum PS3 didn't in US. That affected PS3 a lot of the sales in the US and the fact thar PS3 didn't launch in Europe until 2007 didn't help the impression of the bad launch. And launching at the same time as Wii either...

XBO did not ended as good as the original XB, so there isn't the same hype for the next XB as it was with X360. Playstation during 2006-2007 was just a culminations of missteps from Sony combined with succesful ones from Microsoft and Nintendo. It was the perfect storm. 2020 and 2021 are not pointing in the same direction. XB brand is not something new and fascinating anymore and Nintendo is not launching their new and revolutionary console at the same time.

PS5 will be fine, whatever Sony decides PS5 to be. The real question is..., how much succesful can Sony make PS5 at launch in my opinion. My guess?, they are going to break records at launch, by 6 months, by 12 months, .... like PS4 did but better.

I perfectly understand your point, and I was too lazy to elaborate mine.

 PS3 was not in a very comfortable situation, as MS rushed a bit XBox360, releasing it 1 year before, I believe without "completing" all the test on the machine(The ring of death), in order to beat Sony on the head start.  Now, even though 360 didn't sell extraordinary well the first year, it managed to establish a very good reputation, mostly in NA, and from the second year, it really started to shine with better multiplatform games VS PS3, and a very competitive price, much much lower than PS3;  things were not going very well for Sony, it was last behind 360 and Wii, the king of casual gamers.  Only with the release of PS3 Slim in September 2009, Sony started "to recover the lost ground", devs started to learn more the complex architecture, and multiplatform games finally were gradually on pair with the 360 counterpart and later on, even better in some cases.  So, even considering the above mentioned problems, PS3 managed to take the lead in Europe and be second Worldwide at the end of its life cycle, while 360 the king in NA, and Wii 1st in the Global and Japan.

  So I agree with you 100%, and my only "concern" is :"how much successfull PS5 will be at Launch?"  Like PS4 ?  More ? A lot more? Microscopically less ? 

 I would say more, just a guess.

We agree on PS5 launch then..., i don't think we are the only ones......



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Evilms said:

The PS4 finished top of the world sales for the 5th consecutive year (2014-2015-2016-2017-2018). Long live the king !

Absolutely earned.

Dr.Vita said:
Amazing accomplishment, all these graphs and statistics in this thread show why Playstation is the king of video gaming!

So true. The best GAMES-Console in the last Years!

Evilms said:

Love my PS2 and PS4 :) Both consoles have legendary games. Good is.. PS4 is number 3 of all time, in future.