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twintail said:
good sales, but unless it gets well ahead of the PS4 holiday spike there, it will just fall under the PS4, and keep swinging back up and down.

Yeah, the PS4 will definitely be on top again. And my guess is within a couple of years it will remain so.

Still, great performance from the Switch. Much better than a lot of us predicted.



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Switch is a monster, honestly.



Is PS4 still ahead of PS2? That's weird.



Hiku said:
Is PS4 still ahead of PS2? That's weird.

At that time staggered launches were more common. PS2 released in March in Japan, in October in the US, in November in europe. But more importantly, Sony was expanding it's distribution in more countries worldwide that gen (which is to this day the reason for Playstations strength in the rest of the world), which means it got into more countries even later in the lifecycle. Add to that, that it was unchallanged leader that gen and got lots of third-party support and that the PS3 struggled out of the gate which gave PS2 a second wind. All together explains why PS2 started slower but sold constantly over a very, very long timeframe.



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The Playstation was a sleeper hit. While in retrospect, a lot of people play off the "Devastating move to launch the console cheaper than Saturn as it stole Sega's thunder." That's not accurate. Even after that move, the Playstation was still almost invisible and irrelevant for another 1-2 years. Resident Evil is the first game I recall that was an eye opener.

Yes, the price of the Saturn killed it, but the launch price of the Playstation had NOTHING to do with Sega's downfall (again, because no one gave a crap about it). Basically, when the Playstation really began to take off, the N64 was the console to defeat. Lucky for Sony, N64 games cost 2-3 times as much. While Nintendo was going on about the amazing 4 games available on the console, Sony was saying "Or you could get ours which now has over 200 games, including Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Crash, and Twisted Metal; and upcoming later Wild Arms, Final Fantasy 7, and Resident Evil 2.



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Mnementh said:
Hiku said:
Is PS4 still ahead of PS2? That's weird.

At that time staggered launches were more common. PS2 released in March in Japan, in October in the US, in November in europe. But more importantly, Sony was expanding it's distribution in more countries worldwide that gen (which is to this day the reason for Playstations strength in the rest of the world), which means it got into more countries even later in the lifecycle. Add to that, that it was unchallanged leader that gen and got lots of third-party support and that the PS3 struggled out of the gate which gave PS2 a second wind. All together explains why PS2 started slower but sold constantly over a very, very long timeframe.

I see. I do recall PS2 launching at different points in Japan compared to the west as my neighbour had an imported PS2 with Tekken Tag, but I wasn't aware of how much it expanded in more regions over time.
Was weird seeing this as I don't expect PS4 to end up anywhere near PS2's numbers in the end, and at this point, over 5 years into its life cycle, plenty of PS2's had already experienced the dreaded Disc Read Error that forced a lot of people to buy a second one.

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Pinkie_pie said:
Launching in march sure helps. Im surprised the wii was way ahead of the ps1 and ps2 but couldnt outsell any of them lifetime. Did the wii hit a brick wall?

The Wii peaked in 2009, its third year on the market.  Sales really began to tank in 2011 when the stream of new releases dried up and there was basically nothing but Skyward Sword, but it still sold over 10 million units that year.  It was selling around 20 million units a year for 4 years while the games were coming, 10 million when the year the games topped coming, and around 5 million the year it was replaced.

Despite the claims that the Wii's sales were front-loaded, it actually peaked later in its life-cycle than previous Nintendo home-consoles and saw more consistent sales as well.  The most front-loaded Nintendo console is the N64, which sold like crazy at launch for a while in 1997 before losing its momentum that same year.  The Gamecube peaked in its second year.  The Wii peaked in year 3 and didn't drop off that much until year 5.  It was a full 6 years between the launch of the Wii and the launch of its successor, a full year longer than the previous consoles.

PS1 sales really took off later in its lifespan, specifically after Final Fantasy 7 launched in 1997, though it wasn't selling poorly before then.

PS2 is perhaps the most unusual beast of all because it sold over 50 million units AFTER the PS3 launched.

If memory serves, there were periods where both the PS2 and Wii were outselling their immediate successors.  The PS1 also sold a ton after the PS2 had launched.

Playstation has one big advantage in that Sony sells in many markets outside of North America, Japan, and Europe that Nintendo doesn't really ship much of any to.  But even without that nothing sells tens of millions well into the following generation the way Sony consoles do.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_sales

https://www.statista.com/statistics/227012/lifetime-unit-sales-of-nintendos-home-consoles/ (note. I'm going by January-December in my descriptions above, not the fiscal year like this link does).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_sales



Congrats Nintendo, well deserved.

I predict the Switch and PS4 will continue this dance all the way up till the PS5 launches. It all comes down to which console has their bigger releases coming up. Both are doing great and as gamers we only win as a result.



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vivster said:
Not sure what to think of it when it's above the console that sold 160m but below the console that sold 100m. So I guess that means it will sell anywhere between 80m and 200m.

Can't really point a failure in this logic =p



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thismeintiel said:
twintail said:
good sales, but unless it gets well ahead of the PS4 holiday spike there, it will just fall under the PS4, and keep swinging back up and down.

Yeah, the PS4 will definitely be on top again. And my guess is within a couple of years it will remain so.

Still, great performance from the Switch. Much better than a lot of us predicted.

Yep Switch is doing fantastic. Much better than most predictions. Now it is just a matter of how far it will go on pushing its LTD higher.

Jumpin said:
The Playstation was a sleeper hit. While in retrospect, a lot of people play off the "Devastating move to launch the console cheaper than Saturn as it stole Sega's thunder." That's not accurate. Even after that move, the Playstation was still almost invisible and irrelevant for another 1-2 years. Resident Evil is the first game I recall that was an eye opener.

Yes, the price of the Saturn killed it, but the launch price of the Playstation had NOTHING to do with Sega's downfall (again, because no one gave a crap about it). Basically, when the Playstation really began to take off, the N64 was the console to defeat. Lucky for Sony, N64 games cost 2-3 times as much. While Nintendo was going on about the amazing 4 games available on the console, Sony was saying "Or you could get ours which now has over 200 games, including Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Crash, and Twisted Metal; and upcoming later Wild Arms, Final Fantasy 7, and Resident Evil 2.

Final Fantasy 7 was what really made PS1 explode. That is one of the few real system sellers out there.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363